Evolution of the right to carry, 1986 to 2019

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Evolution of the right to carry, 1986 to 2019

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Post by C-dub » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:49 pm

That's cool. :tiphat:
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Post by MaduroBU » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:28 pm

I see that Constitutional Carry in Vermont explains their extreme rate of homicides.

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That is fantastic. Thank you for posting.
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Post by jason812 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:48 pm

Looks like in about 10 years Kansas went from no issue to unrestricted. That's a pretty quick 180.

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Post by C-dub » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:41 pm

jason812 wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:48 pm
Looks like in about 10 years Kansas went from no issue to unrestricted. That's a pretty quick 180.
Part of their evolution is also a little funny. IIRC, Kansas did not initially have preemption and many of the cities had their own ordinances that created a lot of problems. That mostly occurred after KS made OC legal. I'm remembering something about Topeka, the capital, deleting an entire section of some of their laws for whatever reason and that city's laws restricting OC were buried in there. The city officials didn't realize it until a citizen that had decided to OC within city limits and was cited or arrested for it and fought it in court. Once they determined they no longer had a law against it they dropped the charges, I think, and the city council decided to let things be to see if there would be any problems before attempting to reenact any laws prohibiting OC again. After a year or two they didn't see any issues and just left it alone. I think KS also got state preemption after that sometime, but I'm not real sure about that.
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Post by KLB » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:36 pm

C-dub wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:41 pm
I think KS also got state preemption after that sometime, but I'm not real sure about that.
I am grateful for the state preemption we have and expect the gun grabbers to target it vigorously.


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Post by theblaze » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:52 pm

That is a good perspective on how far we've come. The fact that it is all on the state level makes it harder for the left to undo since they would have to do it one state at a time. Unlike something at the federal level.

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Post by KLB » Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:36 pm

theblaze wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:52 pm
The fact that it is all on the state level makes it harder for the left to undo since they would have to do it one state at a time. Unlike something at the federal level.
Ah, but they'll do it with federal legislation preempting state laws. That's why Trump's judicial appointments are so important, but given how deep the divide is, the tables will eventually turn, and we'll be screwed.


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Post by theblaze » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:15 pm

KLB wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:36 pm
theblaze wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:52 pm
The fact that it is all on the state level makes it harder for the left to undo since they would have to do it one state at a time. Unlike something at the federal level.
Ah, but they'll do it with federal legislation preempting state laws. That's why Trump's judicial appointments are so important, but given how deep the divide is, the tables will eventually turn, and we'll be screwed.
I agree with all of that.

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