When Television News Anchors Become Gun Control Activists

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When Television News Anchors Become Gun Control Activists

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Post by KLB » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:44 pm

In the worst mass public shooting, a killer in Las Vegas used AR-15s, a type of semi-automatic rifle, to murder 58 people. The second worst attack occurred at an Orlando nightclub in 2016, and the killer used both an AR-15 style rifle as well as a very commonly-owned handgun. In the third worst attack, at Virginia Tech, the killer only used to handguns to claim 32 lives.

From 1998 to today, all mass public shootings where shots were fired, handguns averaged 8.3 murders. Rifle shootings averaged 13.3. All attacks where both handguns and rifles were fired resulted in more deaths – 21.4, on average.

"60 Minutes" tried to argue that the AR-15 is the weapon of choice for mass public shooters because its “ammunition travels three times the speed of sound” and does more damage to the human body. “So, you can see why the AR-15’s high velocity ammo is the fear of every American emergency,” claimed CBS’s Scott Pelley.
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Post by srothstein » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:29 pm

From 1998 to today, all mass public shootings where shots were fired, handguns averaged 8.3 murders. Rifle shootings averaged 13.3. All attacks where both handguns and rifles were fired resulted in more deaths – 21.4, on average.
I wish John Lott had used better punctuation. I had to read it because this sentence makes no sense to me and I had more respect for him than that. I am still unsure if this is his writing or a quote from CBS.

My problem with this sentence is that it implies there are mass public shootings where no shots were fired. How is that possible?

Or am I too much of a grammar nazi?
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Post by K.Mooneyham » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:02 am

Oh my, the .223 is a "high velocity" cartridge...except that, again, the ignorance of the antis showcases itself. Anyone who is knowledgeable about firearms knows that the ENERGY of the round is what matters the most, along with bullet design to help harness that energy. I'm going to post the figures for three common American rifle rounds, and anyone who reads this can tell me which has the most energy.

Cartridge (Wb + type)/ MV (fps) / V @ 200 yds / ME (ft lb)/ E @ 200 yds
.223 Rem. (55 Sp)/ 3240/ 2304 / 1282/ 648
.30-30 Win. (150 FP) / 2390/ 1605/ 1902/ 858
.30-06 Spfd. (150 Sp)/ 2910 / 2342/ 2820/ 1827

(Please note, the work involving the numbers is NOT my own, I do not make any personal claim to owning this work, I took it from a webpage that can be easily accessed by anyone with a quick search, and did so solely for educational purposes. However, I have no reason to doubt the numbers.)


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Post by MaduroBU » Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:05 am

If the .223 Remington is so deadly, why is it illegal for use on big game in many states?


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Post by howdy » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:37 am

How about those speedy knives.
"According To The FBI, Knives Kill Far More People Than Rifles In America – It’s Not Even Close"

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Post by The Annoyed Man » Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:36 am

I think it’s a formatting problem and poor editing. If you read it carefully, you can tell where Lott is quoting the anti gun media, and where he’s rebutting those quotes.
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Post by The Annoyed Man » Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:40 am

howdy wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:37 am
How about those speedy knives.
"According To The FBI, Knives Kill Far More People Than Rifles In America – It’s Not Even Close"

https://dailycaller.com/2018/02/19/kniv ... tatistics/
I can’t view it. Daily Caller's page keeps forwarding me to http://luckyguys.xyz/prize/luckyus-ad/l ... idth=0&e=5 - one of those ad pages that won’t let you out without killing the window/browser tab.

(Oops. I forgot to turn on my VPN. Problem solved.)
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