Can Beto O’Rourke really beat Ted Cruz?

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Re: Can Beto O’Rourke really beat Ted Cruz?

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I hear ya! There are a couple people I see every week that like to spread the half truths and bull so it's important to me to be able to correct them or at least give the rest of the story to the group! :tiphat:
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Re: Can Beto O’Rourke really beat Ted Cruz?

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WildRose wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:45 am
tbrown wrote: Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:13 pm
WildRose wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:38 pm
tbrown wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:53 pm I'm voting for Cruz but I'm not sure it really matters in the long run. When the Democrats were in charge, the country was cruising along at 60 mph toward a third world socialist-hole. If Bernie had been elected President, the speed might have increased a little or a lot. When Trump was elected, things slowed down for a bit, but it didn't stop. Now we're back up to 45 mph or so, and Grassley wants to give it gas.
We've got to get enough people in the right places to slow it down before we can begin to reverse course.
On that we agree completely. Let's look at the facts. The majority party in the House is the same as the majority party in the Senate. The President is also from that party. It's pretty clear that voting for that party doesn't get the right people in the right places to slow down the double time march toward a third world socialist-hole.

I'm still voting for Cruz but I'm not sure about the rest of them.
Unlike the democrats it's hard as all get out to get republicans to vote a straight party line on anything controversial because so many of them come from purple districts.

You're not going to find a dem that's going to vote with them consistently either and third party votes are just a wasted vote that help dem's win.

Where we have to take a stand and get active is in the primaries to ensure conservatives, not just republicans make the trip to DC and then we can effect some real change.
If the GOP party leadership can't make Republican legislators toe the line on platform issues, that's a big problem. At election time, if the GOP party leadership endorse those who strayed, they're perpetuating the problem. When they do that, they make their endorsement a rubber stamp and effectively useless for conservatives who care about issues more than they care about the party.

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Re: Can Beto O’Rourke really beat Ted Cruz?

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philip964 wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:46 pm https://www.star-telegram.com/news/poli ... 32670.html

Beto will have an hour to him self on CNN, as Ted declined to come on CNN.
Does CNN have to report that as an in-kind contribution to the Beto campaign?
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Re: Can Beto O’Rourke really beat Ted Cruz?

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I opened 4 unrelated videos on YouTube this morning, and all 4 opened with Beto ads.
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Re: Can Beto O’Rourke really beat Ted Cruz?

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tbrown wrote: Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:32 pm
WildRose wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:45 am
tbrown wrote: Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:13 pm
WildRose wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:38 pm
tbrown wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:53 pm I'm voting for Cruz but I'm not sure it really matters in the long run. When the Democrats were in charge, the country was cruising along at 60 mph toward a third world socialist-hole. If Bernie had been elected President, the speed might have increased a little or a lot. When Trump was elected, things slowed down for a bit, but it didn't stop. Now we're back up to 45 mph or so, and Grassley wants to give it gas.
We've got to get enough people in the right places to slow it down before we can begin to reverse course.
On that we agree completely. Let's look at the facts. The majority party in the House is the same as the majority party in the Senate. The President is also from that party. It's pretty clear that voting for that party doesn't get the right people in the right places to slow down the double time march toward a third world socialist-hole.

I'm still voting for Cruz but I'm not sure about the rest of them.
Unlike the democrats it's hard as all get out to get republicans to vote a straight party line on anything controversial because so many of them come from purple districts.

You're not going to find a dem that's going to vote with them consistently either and third party votes are just a wasted vote that help dem's win.

Where we have to take a stand and get active is in the primaries to ensure conservatives, not just republicans make the trip to DC and then we can effect some real change.
If the GOP party leadership can't make Republican legislators toe the line on platform issues, that's a big problem. At election time, if the GOP party leadership endorse those who strayed, they're perpetuating the problem. When they do that, they make their endorsement a rubber stamp and effectively useless for conservatives who care about issues more than they care about the party.

I told my elected officials what they need to accomplish to earn my vote. Incumbents who don't deliver don't get my vote.
The longtime speaker of the house was the big problem that kept the decent republicans and conservatives from advancing the cause at a reasonable rate. He was nothing but a leftwing democrat with an R by his name.

He's gone now and I have some faith we'll start gaining a lot more ground a lot more rapidly.

Voting for anything else even third party just ensures we hand over power to those who see us as the enemy.
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Re: Can Beto O’Rourke really beat Ted Cruz?

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Early voting starts next Monday (22nd).

As the Democrats say... "Vote early and often". :mrgreen:
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RoyGBiv wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:12 am Early voting starts next Monday (22nd).
As the Democrats say... "Vote early and often". :mrgreen:
Already voted. In the mail last week!
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Re: Can Robert O’Rourke really beat Ted Cruz?

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Why O'Rourke's Rhetoric on Police Shootings Is Wrong—And Dangerous
https://townhall.com/columnists/johnrlo ... s-n2528561
“How can we continue to lose the lives of unarmed black men in the United States of America at the hands of white police officers? That is not justice.”- Robert O'Rouke


Robert O'Rourke - wrong for Texas and wrong for freedom loving Americans everywhere!
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Re: Can Beto O’Rourke really beat Ted Cruz?

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Great article by John Lott!

The last thing Texas needs is another politician using race to create false divisions between Texans.
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Re: Can Beto O’Rourke really beat Ted Cruz?

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On the news tonight there was a hispanic saying he was voting or O’Rouke because he was Mexican. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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Re: Can Beto O’Rourke really beat Ted Cruz?

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TreyHouston wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:33 pm On the news tonight there was a hispanic saying he was voting or O’Rouke because he was Mexican. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Yeah, funny, but not funny. A lot of Mexi.... I mean, Hispanics... will vote for him because they saw that.
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Re: Can Beto O’Rourke really beat Ted Cruz?

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Ruark wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:19 pm
TreyHouston wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:33 pm On the news tonight there was a hispanic saying he was voting or O’Rouke because he was Mexican. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Yeah, funny, but not funny. A lot of Mexi.... I mean, Hispanics... will vote for him because they saw that.
And when they finally get to the polls, they'll see:

Ted Cruz [ ]
Beto O'Rourke [ ]

I have a feeling they'll change their minds when they see the last names

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Re: Can Robert O’Rourke really beat Ted Cruz?

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bblhd672 wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:08 pm Why O'Rourke's Rhetoric on Police Shootings Is Wrong—And Dangerous
https://townhall.com/columnists/johnrlo ... s-n2528561
“How can we continue to lose the lives of unarmed black men in the United States of America at the hands of white police officers? That is not justice.”- Robert O'Rouke


Robert O'Rourke - wrong for Texas and wrong for freedom loving Americans everywhere!
They should have just beaten o'rourke to a pulp, right there, just for being white...

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Re: Can Beto O’Rourke really beat Ted Cruz?

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TreyHouston wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:33 pm On the news tonight there was a hispanic saying he was voting or O’Rouke because he was Mexican. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
My wife is Mexican American and is a staunch Democrat. She always corrects me when I tell her I am Hispanic (since my grandfather immigrated from Spain). I love asking her why she is planning to vote for the Irish guy instead of the Hispanic in this upcoming election. She doesn't seem to have a good answer for that one.
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