Speaker Bonnen's betrayal of Texas gun-owners

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I would say the speaker is correct. We are the fringe. I do not know a single person who does not own a firearm. I also do not personally know a person who is in the NRA let alone a life member such as myself and many others on this forum. Do you think the average gun owner knows about the speaker assignments? I would be willing to say no. It is us the fringe who are not happy with the status quo in regards to our gun rights. The speakers comments are belittling and meant to make the outspoken seem uninformed when the opposite is true.

Think the dems would put any republicans in as committee chair? I think not. That Dallas Morning news article pointed out that his allies got the coveted assignments and chairmanships. Well if that's true and he put dems in charge of key committees, then his true colors are showing.

I hope he proves us wrong, but I won't hold my breath.
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I'll look forward to lots of pro 2A legislation this year then, Mr Speaker. Thank you.

I'd be quite pleased to have you prove me wrong. :tiphat:
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I will be honest, I don't know Speaker Bonnen in the least. Conversely, I have been acquainted with Mr. Charles Cotton for several years now. I trust what Mr. Cotton has to say on the matter of Texas law regarding self-defense and firearms, and how laws get made in our grand state. Additionally, it is nice to know that the noise we made has been heard, and hopefully despite the horrible tone of that response, that things will work out in our favor during the session. I will not, however, hold my breath.

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K.Mooneyham wrote: Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:35 pm it is nice to know that the noise we made has been heard
It's not just us, though. We're a drop in the bucket. This has also been a hot topic on other Texas gun forums, Facebook, etc.
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Do not be misled, folks. Bonnen's actions are absolute political cut-throat and retribution. Look what he did to Drew Darby--a popular rep. from my area of the state. Darby is also a friend of the governor.
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Well, I hope my concerns are unfounded. We will see how things go.
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I know this is primarily a pro-gun CHL site. However, I believe it is important for us all to be aware of the bigger picture and what the left is up to. Gun rights are just a portion of our rights that are under attack.

http://texasscorecard.com/state/texas-d ... s-liberty/

Texas Democrats Target Religious Liberty
While none of this legislation appears likely to pass, the push provides a clear warning sign to what could happen should Democrats succeed in the 2020 elections.

By Cary Cheshire
January 23, 2019
With increased numbers in the Texas Legislature, Texas Democrats are filing bolder and more leftist legislation.

While many Texans expected Democrats to file legislation to raise the minimum wage, bring Obamacare to Texas, and scale back pro-life protections for the unborn, few expected an all-out war to be declared on religious liberty.
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Too bad there’s no penalty for politicians flat out lying to get elected. :mad5 :mad5 :mad5
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Maybe it's time to pull things from the Texas Republican Party, such as "Grass Roots Support", which is a monthly donation.

I see no need to continue to contribute to a Party which is actively betraying me.

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the man thinks we're a Democracy..... :roll: ...and then he doubled down on it....and he's our Speaker.....we're in trouble.
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Charles L. Cotton wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:24 pm Below is an article posted on TexasFirearmsCoalition.com. I'll be releasing a podcast on this today or tomorrow.
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I read the article on the firearms coalition page, couldn't agree more. I was helping his primary opponent Damon Rambo because I knew he was the likely speaker choice and would be Straus 2.0. Unfortunately his name recognition, incumbency and big war chest crushed any chance of taking him out. Of course I guess someone else that could have been worse like Zerwas could have been worse but I am afraid Bonnen is living up to my expectations. I was SHOCKED to see his reply with his NRA rating as a shield and calling us all "fringe" gun rights groups. I hope the NRA or TSRA or whoever issues a rebuke of him using his rating like that. I contacted my legislators and the Governor and Bonnen's offices to tell them to remove panic button Pancho or move the constitutional carry issue to another committee with a reliable chair. Thanks for keeping up on this issue.
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Jeff B. wrote: Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:46 pm Maybe it's time to pull things from the Texas Republican Party, such as "Grass Roots Support", which is a monthly donation.

I see no need to continue to contribute to a Party which is actively betraying me.

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The actual grassroots party, the precinct committeeman, county chairmen, and state level officials seem to have little actual influence on Individual legislators who call themselves Republicans. Individual politicians can raise their own money and run their own campaigns, and pulling support from the party simply gives more power to the individual politician.

I don’t know that this can really be changed. It has been a long time since The actual party apparatus of either party has had significant control of their politicians. The era of direct communication and direct fundraising Has created this situation.
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SewTexas wrote: Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:04 pm the man thinks we're a Democracy..... :roll: ...and then he doubled down on it....and he's our Speaker.....we're in trouble.
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baytownb wrote: Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:50 am I read the article on the firearms coalition page, couldn't agree more. I was helping his primary opponent Damon Rambo because I knew he was the likely speaker choice and would be Straus 2.0. Unfortunately his name recognition, incumbency and big war chest crushed any chance of taking him out. Of course I guess someone else that could have been worse like Zerwas could have been worse but I am afraid Bonnen is living up to my expectations. I was SHOCKED to see his reply with his NRA rating as a shield and calling us all "fringe" gun rights groups. I hope the NRA or TSRA or whoever issues a rebuke of him using his rating like that. I contacted my legislators and the Governor and Bonnen's offices to tell them to remove panic button Pancho or move the constitutional carry issue to another committee with a reliable chair. Thanks for keeping up on this issue.
Yeah, I was wondering how Charles, who is on the national board of that organization that gave Bonnen that A rating, qualified as a “fringe” activist, and wondering low long Bonnen will keep his A rating if Charles has anything to say about it. I also wonder how much Charles liked swallowing being called that. If the NRA is a “fringe gun rights group”, then Bonnen is Thomas Jefferson. Unfortunately, Bonnen is turning out to be exactly what is wrong with the GOP, and why I don’t call it home any longer.
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