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Homeowner shoots man upset over car being towed

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A homeowner shot a man trying to break into his house after the man's car was towed for blocking the driveway. Occured at 3am. No mention of homewowner being charged (I would suspect not since it was at night).

Man had been clubbing and tried to break-in using a concrete block. Probably very lucky he is alive. Sounds like the homeowner did not wait until the man had broken in and was inside the house but fired through the door.

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Obviously, if this occurred in Chicago or New Jersey, homeowner would have been arrested and would be looking at jail and civil charges from the victim (person who was shot) Got to love where we live. :txflag:
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A classic case of someone blaming someone else for their own actions. This guy parks his car, blocking a driveway and is angry because his car was towed? What an idiot.
Pity the shot wasn’t a little higher as IMO, this is a part of the gene pool that needs chlorinated.
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philip964 wrote:A homeowner shot a man trying to break into his house after the man's car was towed for blocking the driveway. Occured at 3am. No mention of homewowner being charged (I would suspect not since it was at night).

The man was trying to break into the house. Night has no bearing on that. Night only applies for someone using deadly force against a burglar that is running away with stolen property.

PC §9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is
justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible,
movable property: .
(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under
Section 9.41; and
(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly
force is immediately necessary:
(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary,
robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal
mischief during the nighttime
; or.........


He was justified based on self-defense

PC §9.31. SELF-DEFENSE. (a) Except as provided in Subsection
(b), a person is justified in using force against another when and to the
degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary
to protect the actor against the other's use or attempted use of
unlawful force. The actor's belief that the force was immediately
necessary as described by this subsection is presumed to be reasonable
if the actor:
(1) knew or had reason to believe that the person against whom
the force was used:
(A) unlawfully and with force entered, or was attempting to
enter unlawfully and with force, the actor's occupied habitation, vehicle,
or place of business or employment;


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PRO wrote:A classic case of someone blaming someone else for their own actions. This guy parks his car, blocking a driveway and is angry because his car was towed? What an idiot.
Pity the shot wasn’t a little higher as IMO, this is a part of the gene pool that needs chlorinated.
Had the same kind of thing happen to me 40 years ago. Our neighborhood was in the process of transitioning from owner occupied to absentee landlords with primarily college students for tenants, packing the houses with 6 to 8 unrelated tenants, which was a violation city law.

Kid from New Jersey, partying at a buddy's flat, parked across my driveway and I had a fire call. I called the cops, they ticketed and impounded because the kid had loads of unpaid tickets.

Next evening my cousin, my wife, and I are sitting in my living room, funny "tapping" noise coming from the front, and my cousin looks out the window and says that there is someone throwing eggs at the house. I stepped out the door with a (unloaded) shotgun while my wife called the police. We waited for the cops to arrive while the kid moaned about my making him lose his car, and then when the cops did arrive, he wanted me charged with ADW and used my having his car towed as a valid reason to egg my house. The cops had a good laugh at that and then hauled him off on warrants related to his unpaid fines.

Apparently, according to the kid, all I had to do was come get him and he would have moved the car so I could get out, that I had no right to claim part of the public street as mine just because I had one of the few driveways on the block, etc, etc.

One of several incidents, in the 70s, where I wound up with a gun in my hand, protecting my home and family, in ALBANY NY, without any repercussions to me.
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JJVP wrote:The man was trying to break into the house. Night has no bearing on that.
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It looks like the criminal was trying to break into an occupied residence, in order to murder the occupants or cause them serious bodily injury. Shooting the violent criminal is an appropriate response legally, tactically, and morally.
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Along time ago I was playing outfield and a fly ball bounced out of my glove. In anger, I threw my glove on the ground. The coach asked me why I had done this as it wasn’t the gloves fault that I dropped the ball. I learned a valuable lesson that day.

I believe the two biggest problems we have today is people not taking responsibility for their own actions and everyone wanting to sue someone for a quick buck.

If I’m stupid enough to park illegally then it’s my fault when the car is towed. It sounds to me, if the homeowner hadn’t shot this person then this person would have retaliated sooner or later, (he still might). Just like the eggs, these are some of the people who make up our society. They are the ones who say, “Woe is me, life treats me unfair.” Everything is someone or something’s fault but their own.

Fortunately, Darwin said they will eventually get themselves cleansed from the gene pool.
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But how many others have suffer until the gene pool is cleaned out? I get really tired of all the folks these days that blame their misfortunes on someone else. I freely admit to having done some rather silly stuff from time to time, and to having made some really boneheaded decisions. I admit it. My fault. Should have known better. Lesson learned.

My sometimes boneheaded teenage son got in trouble at school for mouthing off to a teacher. End result, three days suspension. Ex-wife blames the teacher, the administration, the world at large, but not my bone headed son. He asked me what I would have done, and I said, "keep my mouth shut, listen, and if offered the chance to explain myself, do so in a clear, level headed manner". He said that was difficult, and I agreed. Sometimes it is. Practice will help.

Shooter appears justified by all accounts. He shouldn't have parked where he did, he shouldn't have tried to break in and enter with who knows what intent. Serves him right.

I have a neighbor that complained to me that someone was parking in front of his house. Not blocking his driveway, just on the street in front of his house. He had even called the police. They laughed at him. I explained that it is a public street and unless they are blocking traffic, his driveway, or maybe facing the wrong direction there is nothing he can do. Unless he wanted to buy the street from the city and pay for maintenance and upkeep. Real prince of a guy, that neighbor......maybe I should go move my car.......
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I'm trying to get my wife a little more at ease that there is now a loaded gun in the house (no children). Tonight I mentioned the story of a man trying to break into a house at 3 am in the morning by bashing down the door with a concrete block.

She said she had seen the story on TV last night and that they interviewed the homeowner and he said he did not want to kill the man and so he shot him purposely in the leg.

This guy is really lucky to be alive. He may have tried to beat down the door of the only person on earth that would try and purposely not aim for center mass.
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lonewolf wrote:But how many others have suffer until the gene pool is cleaned out? I get really tired of all the folks these days that blame their misfortunes on someone else. I freely admit to having done some rather silly stuff from time to time, and to having made some really boneheaded decisions. I admit it. My fault. Should have known better. Lesson learned.

My sometimes boneheaded teenage son got in trouble at school for mouthing off to a teacher. End result, three days suspension. Ex-wife blames the teacher, the administration, the world at large, but not my bone headed son. He asked me what I would have done, and I said, "keep my mouth shut, listen, and if offered the chance to explain myself, do so in a clear, level headed manner". He said that was difficult, and I agreed. Sometimes it is. Practice will help.

Shooter appears justified by all accounts. He shouldn't have parked where he did, he shouldn't have tried to break in and enter with who knows what intent. Serves him right.

I have a neighbor that complained to me that someone was parking in front of his house. Not blocking his driveway, just on the street in front of his house. He had even called the police. They laughed at him. I explained that it is a public street and unless they are blocking traffic, his driveway, or maybe facing the wrong direction there is nothing he can do. Unless he wanted to buy the street from the city and pay for maintenance and upkeep. Real prince of a guy, that neighbor......maybe I should go move my car.......

I had a company rent the house next to me they housed their workers(4ea, young guys) there, they all had huge trucks always parked in front of my house which covered my mail box. I could not do anything about it I even got notes from the mailman telling me why I was not getting my mail. I posted one of those notes on the truck, still they parked there. Finally one day they parked there with a long trailer facing the wrong direction :lol: on my way to the store I ran into a LEO at the end of my block and asked her if she would kindly give the guy a ticket. "rlol" "rlol" I got my justice even if it was only a little. Later that year one of the guys thought it was a good idea to punch his girl friend in the face(my son saw it) cops came bla bla bla... They moved out shortly after that. :smilelol5: :thumbs2:
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