Show Killer wrote:My employer also prohibits us from carrying on the job. They also say that people aren't allowed in if carrying. I got into an argument with the director of Human Resources because they don't have the proper signs posted. She couldn't be told otherwise so i let it go. We have the "unlicensed posession" signs but that's it. In her eyes that's all we need to have posted.
I don't frequent "looters", but I'm glad you lost the argument. If you'd convinced her of what signs were required, you'd have some irate folks on your hands. At least those who like wings and shorty shorts.
Show Killer wrote:My employer also prohibits us from carrying on the job. They also say that people aren't allowed in if carrying. I got into an argument with the director of Human Resources because they don't have the proper signs posted. She couldn't be told otherwise so i let it go. We have the "unlicensed posession" signs but that's it. In her eyes that's all we need to have posted.
I don't frequent "looters", but I'm glad you lost the argument. If you'd convinced her of what signs were required, you'd have some irate folks on your hands. At least those who like wings and shorty shorts.
Kevin
That's why i gave up the fight. I didn't feel the need to help them ban us. If they want to be ignorant on the subject that's fine with me.
Please do not give HR any more suggestions on proper signage. I do like your wings and would prefer to have the legal option to provide for my own self defense if neccessary.
TxFire wrote:Please do not give HR any more suggestions on proper signage. I do like your wings and would prefer to have the legal option to provide for my own self defense if neccessary.
="kauboy"]Does your handbook have the wording of 30.06. Per the law, any written notice must meet 30.06 wording. It just doesn't have to meet size reqs. Of course its your business' discretion on whether or not you would be fired, but since your following point is held, would they ever know?
I didn't think the wording in a company handbook had to meet 30.06. We've had several emails at work saying weapons of all kinds are not allowed. I thought this was sufficient.
PS. Still no response to my email from Chilis.
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kauboy wrote:Does your handbook have the wording of 30.06. Per the law, any written notice must meet 30.06 wording. It just doesn't have to meet size reqs. Of course its your business' discretion on whether or not you would be fired, but since your following point is held, would they ever know?
I didn't think the wording in a company handbook had to meet 30.06. We've had several emails at work saying weapons of all kinds are not allowed. I thought this was sufficient.
Nope, its pretty clear:
§ 30.06. TRESPASS BY HOLDER OF LICENSE TO CARRY CONCEALED
HANDGUN. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder:
(1) carries a handgun under the authority of
Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, on property of another
without effective consent; and
(2) received notice that:
(A) entry on the property by a license holder
with a concealed handgun was forbidden; or
(B) remaining on the property with a concealed
handgun was forbidden and failed to depart.
(b) For purposes of this section, a person receives notice
if the owner of the property or someone with apparent authority to
act for the owner provides notice to the person by oral or written
communication.
(c) In this section:
(1) "Entry" has the meaning assigned by Section
30.05(b).
(2) "License holder" has the meaning assigned by
Section 46.035(f). (3) "Written communication" means:
(A) a card or other document on which is written
language identical to the following: "Pursuant to Section 30.06,
Penal Code (trespass by holder of license to carry a concealed
handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411,
Government Code (concealed handgun law), may not enter this
property with a concealed handgun"; or
(B) a sign posted on the property that:
(i) includes the language described by
Paragraph (A) in both English and Spanish;
(ii) appears in contrasting colors with
block letters at least one inch in height; and
(iii) is displayed in a conspicuous manner
clearly visible to the public.
(d) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.
(e) It is an exception to the application of this section
that the property on which the license holder carries a handgun is
owned or leased by a governmental entity and is not a premises or
other place on which the license holder is prohibited from carrying
the handgun under Section 46.03 or 46.035.
However, if you have ever been informed orally that handguns were not allowed, that is a different matter. The law makes no mention of how oral notice must be given, so a simple "We don't allow guns." would suffice.
"People should not be afraid of their Governments.
Governments should be afraid of their people." - V
TSRA used to keep a list, but I don't think it's current. I've always found the TSRA site too frustrating to try to navigate, so I'm not going to bother trying to find the list.
I haven't heard of anything recently. It's usually only the nationwide items that get mentioned in Packing.org.
I personally think it would make more sense and get better exposure if there was a sub-forum here for that purpose.
Whatever information is gathered should also include and identify non-30.06 attempts at signage as well. No sense patronizing them, even though we don't want to help them correct their signage.
Rex B wrote:I would expect a "Looters" to be a 51% place.
Are you guys not selling enough beer?
We are usually 23 - 30 percent. You gotta figure all the people that come in for lunch and don't drink. That drops our overall average down pretty good.
Russell wrote:I am thinking of starting a website such as http://www.antitexaschl.com or equivelant (if any one of you can think of a better domain for it) where I can maintain a list of business in texas that have been reported posting 30.06 signs, with perhaps contact information where you can use the website to email them etc.
Is there a website dedicated to that yet, or would it/would it not be a good idea? I would of course need community support as I only live in college station :D
That link don't hunt!
I know...I know...Just yanking yer chain...
I like the concept though...
"Perseverance and Preparedness triumph over Procrastination and Paranoia every time.” -- Steve
NRA - Life Member
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