Burleson Schools protecting Students???

StexFJR · Post by **StexFJR** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 7:46 am

Well I guess this is better than nothing but just barely.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/met ... 40170.html

Mithras61 · Post by **Mithras61** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:46 am

Since allowing concealed firearms in schools carried by CHLers will require legislative action, this is about as good as it can be. It isn't the best available solution, but it may be the best that can be done without a change in the law.

Teaching people not to meekly submit but rather to fight back is always a good step in the right direction.

seamusTX · Post by **seamusTX** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:17 am

Mithras61 wrote:Teaching people not to meekly submit but rather to fight back is always a good step in the right direction.

Ditto. We have seen in school shootings and airplane hijackings that "cooperate and you won't get hurt" is false, and anyone who gives that advice is worse than an idiot.

- Jim

KBCraig · Post by **KBCraig** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:21 am

The trouble is going to be getting them to overcome the mindset that has been drilled into them since kindergarten.

School invaders are extremely rare, but schoolyard fights are something students still see on a regular basis. And every student knows that the "zero tolerance" response means the victim will be in just as much trouble as the attacker if they fight back or defend themselves instead of dropping to the ground and curling up in a ball.

But I did like the attitude they're trying to teach:

The "critical incident response" training for teachers and students instructs them to disrupt attackers by barraging them with classrooms supplies, officials said.

"Crawling under a table and hoping and waiting for rescue is not a recipe for survival," Greg Crane, an incident response trainer, said in a report by Dallas-Fort Worth television station KTVT.

"Just because the gun goes off does not mean you can't still fight," Lisa Crane said. "You can still try to gain control of the situation where you can get the children out."

KBCraig · Post by **KBCraig** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:22 am

I do have to say, though... I'm not too hot on securing a $95,000 federal grant to pay the principal's husband. Sounds a little fishy.

kauboy · Post by **kauboy** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:30 pm

KBCraig wrote:I do have to say, though... I'm not too hot on securing a $95,000 federal grant to pay the principal's husband. Sounds a little fishy.

Hmmm... good point. But I guess that since the police and military were called in for training advice, they may receive a large portion of this.

I went to high school in Burleson and all of my friends grew up there. I'm glad to see this step. If done properly, the students will develop a "right to life" mentality and will never allow themselves to be victimized. But, since a CHLer is a law abiding citizen, I think they should be allowed to carry in the schools. One or two well trained CHL holders who also happen to be teachers or office staff could help a great deal more than throwing erasers at the violent intruder hell bent on executing innocent children.

StexFJR · Post by **StexFJR** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:54 am

A blurb in the local paper now says that the Burleson School District regrets training students to confront an armed intruder.

TxFire · Post by **TxFire** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:34 am

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... f1085.html

Here is the latest article.

Will938 · Post by **Will938** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:44 pm

Ugh, it seems to me that this "chaos theory" is the reason so many people get shot. How can they possibly think the best option is to leave the person shooting alone and just try to escape if you're confined with them? I mean you hear shots on the other side of the school then by all means escape. But if the guy kicks open the door and starts shooting then at that point their theory is strikingly similar to my "fish in a barrel" theory.