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ScottDLS wrote: What about possession of ammunition purchased before ban, and are all non-residents prohibited from possessing any ammunition in the state? What if I come to Cali to hunt or target shoot?

You can possess it, but can't sell it. You can share or loan it to family or friends, but can't sell it.

ScottDLS wrote:Something I've wondered about this new California ammunition law. What if CA resident goes to Nevada and buys a pallet of ammo? Do you have to have an ammo card to "possess" ammo? What about everybody that got it before? Do they have to turn it in? Seems like a 9 mile wide "loophole" to me. Better let the politicians know so they can close this loophole with common sense laws.

It's already closed. SB1225 makes it illegal to bring ammunition in from outside the state. If you do, it must be shipped to a "licensed ammunition vendor," so they can do your background check, registration, etc. when you pick it up.

One thing that's not regulated by the new code is reloading, and the sale/possession of reloading supplies. Expect a huge surge in reloading in CA in the coming years, at least until the legislature hears about it.

Interesting summary of this at:

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2016/07/ne ... n-law.html

remanifest wrote: The ramifications are incalculable if this is allowed to stand.

You said it. I shudder to think of the consequences of a Katrina or Ferguson type episode in CA a couple of years from now. There are numerous towns in CA already that are so gang-infested you can't even run down to the corner store for a loaf of bread after sunset. Put it all together, and it's a bloodbath waiting to happen.

jkurtz wrote: Not everyone there wants the laws. California is largely controlled by the population dense counties whose votes totally over power the more numerous, but smaller, red counties.

Pretty much the same as Texas, with heavy liberal voter numbers in the big cities dominating the elections. Regardless, at the end of the day, it's the final number that matters.

Don't look for a SCOTUS decision on California anytime soon. Such a case would first have to slog through the various levels of the state and federal court system, and it could be 7 or 8 years before the SCOTUS actually holds it in their hands.

And again, I'm focusing less on California more on how close Texas can come to this. Remember, Hillary got 43.2% of the Texas votes; that's almost half. The pressure is definitely there. How much longer will we hold them off?

I've been reading about California's new gun laws just signed by Jerry Brown, and some of the discussions on calguns.net. It's hard to swallow what's happening to the shooting community out there. The new laws are suffocating.

Assault weapons are banned, "assault weapon" defined as any rifle or semiautomatic pistol possessing one of: detachable magazine, folding/telescoping buttstock, flash suppressor, or a pistol grip (forward and/or rear). If you already own one, it has to be registered with the government by December 21 (I know, 2 days ago) or the mere possession of it is a felony offense.

The mere possession of a magazine capable of holding over 10 rounds is a felony offense. If you have any, you must turn them in or destroy them.

No ammunition through the mail. Ammo only sold be licensed dealers. You must have an ID and background check to buy ANY ammo, AND be added to a state ammunition owner database.

It's a foregone conclusion that the next California governor will be ultra-ultra-liberal Gavin Newson, who will happily sign any restrictive gun law that crosses his desk.

This is not to just whine about California's restrictive gun laws - that has been done - but to just remind everybody how lucky we are to live in Texas. Keep in mind that Hillary Clinton still got almost half the votes in Texas, and that right this very moment, as you read this, people are working full time to bring these kinds of restrictions to Texas.