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by rotor
Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:51 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder
Replies: 204
Views: 54551

Re: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder

I personally think he should be convicted. This is the 4th time in just a few years of Drejka either showing, threatening or using his gun. How many of us go a lifetime and never will pull our gun? I just don't see how anyone can defend this guy. Hopefully a jury settles the case but I don't know if they will be allowed to hear the accusations of previous gun threats this man has made. May take years to find out.
by rotor
Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:51 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder
Replies: 204
Views: 54551

Re: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder

LTUME1978 wrote: Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:30 pm
mojo84 wrote: Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:28 am The video makes it pretty obvious what happened.
Yes, it sure does. Older gentleman gets forcefully shoved to the pavement by the boyfriend of the lady that parked illegally in a handicapped spot. Older gentleman did nothing wrong. If fact, we need more people to step up and speak out when the "privileged folks" break the law or those "privileged folks" will continue their behavior and escalate from there.

I am amazed at the people that are defending the behavior of the boyfriend. Go back and watch the video again. Look at the guy that came out of the store after the boyfriend and how fast and how far he went once he saw the gun coming out. If the boyfriend was truly afraid, he should have been back tracking just as fast. The fact that he did not move much while starring down the wrong end of a gun would lead a reasonable person think that he was not afraid for his safety and may very well intend to attack again.

Ecclesiastes 8:11 When the sentence for a crime is not quickly carried out, people’s hearts are filled with schemes to do wrong.
Now the shooter is an "older gentleman".
Perhaps we need one of those vote posts to see what the forum thinks and drop the rest of this second guessing.
by rotor
Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:26 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder
Replies: 204
Views: 54551

Re: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder

Paladin wrote: Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:16 pm
rotor wrote: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:02 pm
Paladin wrote: Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:43 pm
rotor wrote: Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:08 pm Old guy (shooter) turns out is 47 which I don't classify as old. When you have a history of threatening people with a gun because of a handicap parking violation and then eventually shoot and kill one of them you are guilty of murder as far as I am concerned. Nobody can convince me that this crazy shooter was not guilty of murder. Give him a chance and he will be doing the same thing again. This is not stand your ground. This is incite and kill because you can.
Very much disagree. The "history" you are taking as fact is as quoted by low life that feel they have a right to park in handicapped spaces. Their words are self-serving at best. I have shown Jacobs to be a liar. If Drejka had "incite and kill" all masterfully planned as you suggest, Drejka would not have ended up attacked from behind and only drawn his weapon while laying on the ground. If he wanted to kill McGlockton, Drejka would have shot McGlockton more than once. Drejka fired one shot. Single gunshot wounds are often survivable. Drejka let McGlockton retreat. Drejka never layed a hand on Jacobs.

Those are the facts. This was a dispute that ended badly. Don't let liars and fake news make you believe differently.
The shooter threatened a guy named Kelly for the same type of incident in the past. One does not patrol handicap parking spots, fight with people that are illegally parked and threaten to shoot. Neither of us know what is in his heart but when one repeatedly does the same thing and threaten people with a firearm I look at them as deranged. Obviously the DA in this case agreed with the shooter but if it looks like a duck and you know the rest. I don't know what liars you are talking about.
Kelly was another guy who liked to park illegally in handicapped spots and argued with Drejka when Drejka said something about it. Drejka was not prosecuted for anything and Kelly is quiet on the details. Who knows exactly what happened? It is clear that Kelly isn't going to confess he threatened to beat up or kill Drejka... but it wouldn't be out of character for a criminal to do so.

Please read the articles posted. Jacob's claimed the handicapped spot was the only place she could park... of course the video shows there is plenty of parking available. Jacob's is a liar. Kelly is a confessed troublemaker and honestly I don't believe him either. Do you think a guy who would do what Kelly did would think twice about lying? Don't trust Kelly's statement blindly. Take it for what it is, a self serving statement.
I guess we will never know for sure. We each have our opinion. We each think we are right. Neither of us I hope are going to be armed handicapped parking guards. Something big time wrong with Drejka in my opinion. Not just a normal 47 year old man. Too quick to pull his gun and shoot, at least in my opinion. No business patrolling handicap parking spots with a gun. But, DA or whatever let him go free and that's the way it is.
by rotor
Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:02 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder
Replies: 204
Views: 54551

Re: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder

Paladin wrote: Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:43 pm
rotor wrote: Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:08 pm Old guy (shooter) turns out is 47 which I don't classify as old. When you have a history of threatening people with a gun because of a handicap parking violation and then eventually shoot and kill one of them you are guilty of murder as far as I am concerned. Nobody can convince me that this crazy shooter was not guilty of murder. Give him a chance and he will be doing the same thing again. This is not stand your ground. This is incite and kill because you can.
Very much disagree. The "history" you are taking as fact is as quoted by low life that feel they have a right to park in handicapped spaces. Their words are self-serving at best. I have shown Jacobs to be a liar. If Drejka had "incite and kill" all masterfully planned as you suggest, Drejka would not have ended up attacked from behind and only drawn his weapon while laying on the ground. If he wanted to kill McGlockton, Drejka would have shot McGlockton more than once. Drejka fired one shot. Single gunshot wounds are often survivable. Drejka let McGlockton retreat. Drejka never layed a hand on Jacobs.

Those are the facts. This was a dispute that ended badly. Don't let liars and fake news make you believe differently.
The shooter threatened a guy named Kelly for the same type of incident in the past. One does not patrol handicap parking spots, fight with people that are illegally parked and threaten to shoot. Neither of us know what is in his heart but when one repeatedly does the same thing and threaten people with a firearm I look at them as deranged. Obviously the DA in this case agreed with the shooter but if it looks like a duck and you know the rest. I don't know what liars you are talking about.
by rotor
Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:08 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder
Replies: 204
Views: 54551

Re: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder

Old guy (shooter) turns out is 47 which I don't classify as old. When you have a history of threatening people with a gun because of a handicap parking violation and then eventually shoot and kill one of them you are guilty of murder as far as I am concerned. Nobody can convince me that this crazy shooter was not guilty of murder. Give him a chance and he will be doing the same thing again. This is not stand your ground. This is incite and kill because you can.
by rotor
Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:18 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder
Replies: 204
Views: 54551

Re: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder

The fact that this is not the first time the shooter has been involved in the SAME type of thing before means nothing? He got in a fight with another person and threatened to shoot them for the same parking violation. The guy is a nut case. Jail is where he belongs.
by rotor
Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:05 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder
Replies: 204
Views: 54551

Re: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder

bigtek wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:55 pm If it's fair to consider Drejka's past then it's fair to consider McGlockton's past.
Records show Drejka does not have a criminal history in Florida, although the Sheriff’s Office had prior contact with him in 2012 when a driver accused him of pulling a gun during a road rage incident. Drejka denied he showed the gun, and the accuser declined to press charges.
McGlockton’s history included a drug conviction in 2010 and an arrest for aggravated battery a decade ago, records show, but the charge was dropped.
Drejka's past as quoted from the article...
At the convenience store Friday, customers filed in and out, buying cigarettes, lottery tickets and sodas, many of them familiar with details of the shooting. Mustafa Hashen, a clerk and witness, said both men were regulars.

It wasn’t the first time he saw Drejka in a fight with another customer. A couple of months back, Rick Kelly stopped by the store, parking his tanker truck in the same handicap spot.

The details to Thursday’s incident are similar: Drejka walking around the truck checking for decals, then confronting Kelly, 31, about why he parked there. The fight escalated, and Drejka threatened to shoot him, Kelly said.

"It’s a repeat. It happened to me the first time. The second time it’s happening, someone’s life got taken," Kelly said. "He provoked that."


Normal people don't patrol handicap parking spots and pull guns on people with parking violations. Something major wrong with this guy.
by rotor
Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:19 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder
Replies: 204
Views: 54551

Re: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder

Charles L. Cotton wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:53 pm
rotor wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:31 pm According to this article the shooter pulled a gun before on someone for parking in a handicap spot.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsaf ... _170174041

Sounds like a nutcase to me. If this is true then this shooting was not warranted.
The article claims he pulled a gun over road rage, but he denied it. No charges were filed.

Chas.
Charles, read on further in the article. Similar thing with another customer.
by rotor
Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:31 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder
Replies: 204
Views: 54551

Re: FL:Stand your ground law under fire for parking space dispute murder

According to this article the shooter pulled a gun before on someone for parking in a handicap spot.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsaf ... _170174041

Sounds like a nutcase to me. If this is true then this shooting was not warranted.

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