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locke_n_load wrote:

allisji wrote:

locke_n_load wrote:What's interesting, is that unless they are amending 30.05 in HB1911, carrying past a gunbuster sign, while carrying without a license, would be a class A misdemeanor, which means you could not carry or get a license for 5 years after conviction.

If you carry past 06/07 while carrying licensed, only a class C in most locations.

Subtle but important difference.

What that could be a pretty steep penalty for walking past what could be a very small and inconspicuously placed sign. Do gunbuster signs as they pertain to long guns currently have the force of law?

Gunbusters already apply to long rifles, I believe.

I assume that they theoretically do have the force of law then?

IMO, there is a problem with the gunbuster signs being unregulated and having force of law in regards to CC of handguns. They could be inconspicuously posted and the carrier wouldn't know that he was committing a crime. However if the legislature removes the force of law from gunbuster signs, then property owners must give verbal notification if they wish to ban guns to unlicensed carriers. However Charles has stated that the legislature chose to give the force of law to the 30.06/30.07 signs as a property owner shouldn't have to have a verbal confrontation in order to ban licensed carriers from carrying on his/her property (property owner's rights). So I would think that either the legislature will either want to regulate the posting of gunbuster signs and give them force of law, or remove force of law from 30.06/30.07 signs.

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Ruark wrote:Wait a minute..... We're talking about 30.08 signs... But virtually every store in Texas already has that sign saying it's a felony to enter with an unlicensed handgun. You've seen it; there must be a million of them. So all of those will have to be removed? Ignored? It'll take years to re-educate all the store owners. Messy.

The law as indicated in the original post would get rid of the TABC blue signs. They would become obsolete

locke_n_load wrote:What's interesting, is that unless they are amending 30.05 in HB1911, carrying past a gunbuster sign, while carrying without a license, would be a class A misdemeanor, which means you could not carry or get a license for 5 years after conviction.

If you carry past 06/07 while carrying licensed, only a class C in most locations.

Subtle but important difference.

What that could be a pretty steep penalty for walking past what could be a very small and inconspicuously placed sign. Do gunbuster signs as they pertain to long guns currently have the force of law?

apostate wrote:To add to the above, you can check bill status on TLO. Updates may be delayed a few days, but it gives a view of progress and the road ahead.
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillLook ... ill=HB1911

Thanks, that's a nice resource

Did the bill pass committee? Will the speaker allow the House to vote in it? Is there any reason to expect problems in the Senate?

NotRPB wrote:HB1911 Committee Substitute (removes Belt/Shoulder holster requirement ... etc etc so that Ankle/thigh Holsters, Swimsuit holsters, Bra Holsters, Corset Holsters etc etc are ok too ) in House Cmtee now http://tlchouse.granicus.com/MediaPlaye ... nt_id=3051
About to vote on it... in Homeland Security Committee
6 Ayes 2 Nays
Passed out of Committee Printed to put on Calendar, recommend Passage in House

assuming that the bill passes through committee, what is the process that it has to go through by May 29 in order to become law?

I assume that it has to be presented to the House and will likely be tabled, then eventually come up for a vote, and if it passes the house then goes to the Senate to be presented, and given a period of time for review before it's voted on?

Is it possible that it doesn't make it up for a vote in the Senate before May 29? And then what would happen to it? Just dead in the water?