I'm asking for 06 to match 07 and include the words "at each entrance" to remove the needless risk of a prosecutor interpreting the matter a little differently. If this additional requirement was enough to include in 07, it should be in 06 as well.rotor wrote:If the sign was not visible where you entered and you didn't know it was posted, then you have not been notified. You are asking for more signs to make sure you know it is posted?HootHoot wrote: First of all, for the love of God, can we PLEASE add "at each entrance" to signage requirements for 06 like they are on 07? Had one too many surprises lately where the side or back entrance to a place I stopped by in traveling turned out to be posted, while the front door and entrance I inspected had no warnings to speak of.
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- Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:45 pm
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Re: 30.06/30.07 Cleanup/Ideas
- Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:24 am
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30.06/30.07 Cleanup/Ideas
As we all know, there are several legal grey areas with the 06/07 statutes that need cleaning up.
First of all, for the love of God, can we PLEASE add "at each entrance" to signage requirements for 06 like they are on 07? Had one too many surprises lately where the side or back entrance to a place I stopped by in traveling turned out to be posted, while the front door and entrance I inspected had no warnings to speak of.
Secondly, either create a definition for "property" or, ideally, replace the word with "premises" and use 46.035's definition. This is way too murky as it stands right now, and I'm not in a hurry to risk jail for defending myself in an outdoor mall parking lot because the spa on the corner I never visit turns out to be posted.
Thirdly, can we nix all the redundancies where it says this or that place is illegal, but wait, it's actually ok if they didn't post?
And finally, this is just me being wishful. Can we add a verbal warning requirement to 06? Basically, the sign is still there, but there's no penalty UNLESS someone asks you to leave, then maybe the sign escalates to Class A whereas no sign and a refused requested is Class C.
Ideally, this would also be added to 07, but I understand the concerns for property rights playing into this. 06 would be easier to argue, IMO, because if it's concealed, you aren't exactly going to "scare" away customers.
Just my 2c.
First of all, for the love of God, can we PLEASE add "at each entrance" to signage requirements for 06 like they are on 07? Had one too many surprises lately where the side or back entrance to a place I stopped by in traveling turned out to be posted, while the front door and entrance I inspected had no warnings to speak of.
Secondly, either create a definition for "property" or, ideally, replace the word with "premises" and use 46.035's definition. This is way too murky as it stands right now, and I'm not in a hurry to risk jail for defending myself in an outdoor mall parking lot because the spa on the corner I never visit turns out to be posted.
Thirdly, can we nix all the redundancies where it says this or that place is illegal, but wait, it's actually ok if they didn't post?
And finally, this is just me being wishful. Can we add a verbal warning requirement to 06? Basically, the sign is still there, but there's no penalty UNLESS someone asks you to leave, then maybe the sign escalates to Class A whereas no sign and a refused requested is Class C.
Ideally, this would also be added to 07, but I understand the concerns for property rights playing into this. 06 would be easier to argue, IMO, because if it's concealed, you aren't exactly going to "scare" away customers.
Just my 2c.