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Renegade wrote:I am now wondering if I read it in the original bill and it was stricken. I also remember in the original bill the sticker you had to put on your car. Do you remember that? That of course was stricken. I wish I could find the original bill or at least the original bill enrolled into law.

I do remember the car sticker now that you mention it. There was a lot of goofy stuff in several of the failed bills. I have most of the old CHL bills and my analysis reports going back several years in my long-term storage so I may have to pull some of them and just post a few of the funny/interesting proposals that were proposed and defeated. Some of the “discussions� were hilarious - like the one about the 30.06 sign requirements!

Back to the topic: there is nothing in SB60's engrossed version that deals with machine pistols and I think txinvestigator's evaluation is correct. CHL covers handgun and NFA papers covers the full-auto part.

I should pull my files and write a book about the CHL saga in Texas, but there's a problem. There would only be a handful of people who would be interested, so that would guarantee it top slot on the "Worst Seller List." About one more non-revenue-generating project in my life and my wife will put her Thunder Ranch training to good use.

Chas.

Renegade wrote:You cannot carry a machine gun under auspices of CHL.

You may be right, but where is that in the Penal Code?

Chas.

If you have your CHL, you can carry a handgun. If you have the proper federal papers, then you can "possess" a machine gun. Combine the two and I believe you can carry a machine pistol.

I say "federal papers" because I don't believe the full auto Glocks were manufactured and/or imported into the U.S. prior to the commercial market ban in 1989. If I am correct, then the only way you can get one is if you are a Class III dealer and are using it as a demo. I'm not sure if carrying a machine pistol as a CHL would be outside the scope of a dealer demo, but that is far outside my knowledge of Class III dealers.

Chas.

P.S. Just as an aside, one of the examples I use in my seminars and classes dealing with “reckless injury to a third person� per TPC §9.05 is opening up with an MP-5 or other machine gun and hitting an innocent bystander rather than or in addition to the BG. I’m not suggesting this is what you would do, but merely possessing a machine pistol would be a problem if you did injure or kill an innocent third party, even if you didn’t use it in full auto mode.