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chabouk wrote:Embalmo, you're waaaaay out there on this one.

Anyone can drive right up to the Red's parking lot and commit suicide. Anyone who is concerned about doing so while still covering their family can certainly formulate a plan to do so after renting an hour of range time, and "clean" their gun in the parking lot.

Your suggestion that Red's patrons are less safe is just asinine.

I'm gonna' need you to quote me on this one, 'cause I can't find where I said that patrons were less safe at Red's. Second, you need to watch yourself with this personal attack-It's my understanding that the moderators of this forum have higher standards than to allow someone to tell another that their comments are "asinine" and "waaaaaay out there". Trust me-I've learned that lesson the hard way.

Embalmo

Oh-If this is about the "Patron at Red's say they still feels safe." Watch the newscast video and you'll see that the women reporting the story closes her report with that quote. I found this quote so incredibly ludicrous that I repeated it with the

d strokes wrote:

Embalmo wrote:Red's has really had some serious trouble in less than a year. I wonder if there is going to be any investigations, or policy changes at Red's.

I don't think any policy changes would have helped this guy. Although it may help some of the other people who have had incidents there.

I know a couple ranges around here won't rent a gun to you if you are by yourself, or didn't bring you own guns, or you just look strange.

I think it was a very sad turn of events, and just goes to show how important the 4 rules are.

Oh I agree that policy changes probably won't help or change anything, but these tragedies tend to cause policy changes. I guess it sends a message that something has been done even if it's useless. I'm surprised that gun rentals are still legal considering what happened in Florida when that women killed her son.

Embalmo

If it was truly unintended, I suspect he wanted to go back to "carry mode", and had bought all the hype about how clean a gun must be to be reliable. For the most part, we waaaaay over-clean our guns, well beyond what is necessary for proper function.

If this guy was truly a CHLer, it would certainly support this theory. If he had a CHL and spent an hour at the range, I can't imagine why he would purposely kill himself in his car in the parking lot. Red's has really had some serious trouble in less than a year. I wonder if there is going to be any investigations, or policy changes at Red's.

Embalmo

"Patrons of Red's say they still feel safe."

That is the second tragedy involving Red's in just under a year. Last year in late March a women attempted suicide at their south location and the last account I heard was critical condition.

My wife drove by there today and called me to see if I knew what all the commotion was about. I figured maybe someone was making trouble, but I didn't expect such a tragedy.

Embalmo

I really hope more info gets released.