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by tomneal
Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:54 pm
Forum: Reloading Forum
Topic: Dillon 650 / Swage It
Replies: 18
Views: 21494

Re: Dillon 650 / Swage It

The Swage It was a lot of processing for 9MM. I still had a 'failure to prime' of 2% to 5%. I gave up counting.

While working through the results from the Swage It, I ordered Frankford Arsenal Platinum Series Case Trim and Prep System. I've been reloading a long time and have more tools than I knew.

I found a Hornady Primer Reamer Small that replaced the primer pocket cleaner on the Frankford.
I found a small primer Go/No Go gauge.
I found a Lyman E-Zee Cas Length Gauge

I am beginning the process of trimming the ammo can of .223. I am checking the size with the gauges after processing. It's taking about 20 seconds per stick of brass. I've only done 20 to 50. Speed should improve as I practice.

Current Plans:
Process a couple of hundred sticks of .223 on the Frankford then load them on the Dillon 650
Test fire at the range over a Chrono. (I've got to work up a load as well.)
If all goes well, process the rest of my .223 brass. (A couple of thousand sticks).
Load until, I run out of bullets, brass, powder, or primers.
Put it "Manly Tupperware" for storage.
Put the Swage It in my "Old Holster" drawer.
by tomneal
Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:12 am
Forum: Reloading Forum
Topic: Dillon 650 / Swage It
Replies: 18
Views: 21494

Re: Dillon 650 / Swage It

For 9MM
It's not worth the extra prep time.

I think I have to Swage the crimp from .223
So,
I did the 9mm as practice
by tomneal
Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:31 pm
Forum: Reloading Forum
Topic: Dillon 650 / Swage It
Replies: 18
Views: 21494

Re: Dillon 650 / Swage It

Reloaded 200+ of the Swaged Military brass.

Had at least a 1% failure to prime rate. Those were on 1940 & 1945 brass.

Took them to PSC and shot 100+ of the rounds without issue.

I have a couple of thousand 9MM to load before I start on the .223
by tomneal
Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:17 pm
Forum: Reloading Forum
Topic: Dillon 650 / Swage It
Replies: 18
Views: 21494

Re: Dillon 650 / Swage It

When I looked at the brass from 1940 and 1945, I could see a distinctly bigger crimp. The 1985 and 1992 brass was crimped but not as robust a crimp. I don't believe the military brass had ever been reloaded.
by tomneal
Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:37 pm
Forum: Reloading Forum
Topic: Dillon 650 / Swage It
Replies: 18
Views: 21494

Re: Dillon 650 / Swage It

First Step complete

I installed the Swage It and Swaged around 900 rounds of 9MM.

I noticed that some 9MM brass from 1940 & 1945 was more difficult to Swage. (I bought a 5 gallon bucket of 9MM from Hot Wells Range for a good price, around 20 years ago. This Military brass came from that bucket. I have no idea who shot the 50 year old ammo.)

Step Two
I am running the brass back through the tumbler. I kind of skimped on the tumbling the first time.

Step Three
Load some rounds. Determine if I just wasted time and money.

To Be Continued...

Now, it's time to go deer hunting.
by tomneal
Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:46 pm
Forum: Reloading Forum
Topic: Dillon 650 / Swage It
Replies: 18
Views: 21494

Re: Dillon 650 / Swage It

The Swage It tool arrived today. I'll try it first on 9MM. If it works, I'll try it on .223

The Frankford Arsenal Platinum Series Case Trim and Prep System I ordered should arrive in a week.

I have bullets, powder, primers, brass, and new case prep tools. Now that I've retired, I have time.
I should be able to turn money into noise with the best of them.

For the amount I shoot and what I am spending on reloading, I could just buy new .223 ammo. But, in recent times, .223 has been $1/round and/or unavailable.

My reaction to election stress is to "ammo up". I still have about 1/2 the Small Rifle primers from November 2008 and an untouched case of .22 Rimfire from November 2012. I am working my way through my powder stocks.

Last election I was looking at a tool that would convert spent .22 rimfire brass and a little bit of lead, into .223 bullets. The tool was out-of-stock and I thought better of the purchase.
by tomneal
Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:23 am
Forum: Reloading Forum
Topic: Dillon 650 / Swage It
Replies: 18
Views: 21494

Re: Dillon 650 / Swage It

Thanks for the comment.

I try not to force anything but...
I have been know to get a bigger hammer. ;-)
by tomneal
Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:07 pm
Forum: Reloading Forum
Topic: Dillon 650 / Swage It
Replies: 18
Views: 21494

Re: Dillon 650 / Swage It

It might still but...

I've been running the machine since 1997.

I am not sure how many rounds I've loaded. I think, somewhere between 100 & 200 thousand.

If the loader breaks, and they won't replace the part, I'll replace the part and still be smiling :-)
by tomneal
Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:37 am
Forum: Reloading Forum
Topic: Dillon 650 / Swage It
Replies: 18
Views: 21494

Dillon 650 / Swage It

I seem to have acquired a lot of military brass. Both 5.56 and 9MM

I've tried a borrowed Dillon Swage tool and swaged all I had but it was slow and tedious. Over time I have acquired more military brass.

Yesterday a range buddy told me about Swage It. https://swageit.com/

They have a version for the Dillon 650 that fits in the priming station. I plan to set up a tool head with a depriming / resizing die and nothing else. I'll be able to take advantage of my case feeder to speed the process.

I've ordered the Swage It. While I am waiting for it to arrive, I'll round up the brass and polish it.

If it works, I may try to bid on some military 5.56 brass. Seems like it could be a fun project.

I'll keep you posted.

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