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DO NOT POST DIRECT DPS PHONE NUMBERS!!!

Last post by Charles L. Cotton « Mon May 16, 2016 3:42 pm
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by Charles L. Cotton » Mon May 16, 2016 3:42 pm » in Site Announcements, Questions & Suggestions

Don't even think of posting the direct line phone numbers to the DPS Director or anyone else within DPS. If the number isn't available on the DPS...

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NRA BIT & Pistol Instructor Course

Last post by Scott B. « Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:06 pm
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by misterlarry » Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:03 am

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I'm taking both these courses this coming weekend because I introduce so many new shooters to pistol shooting. I just want to make sure that I'm...

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Yes, do practice at 15 yards. Heck, wish I'd been practicing 20 :lol:

I've been re-evaluating my carry gun, grip, trigger stroke, and even my...

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Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:06 pm
Texas Penal Code 9.22 - Necessity

Last post by CigarStix « Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:04 am
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by CigarStix » Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:59 pm

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Can someone please explain this to me? I'm a new CHL Instructor, working on my presentation, and I'm trying to put this in simple terms. Thanks!

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Thank you to all who have responded to my inquiry!!

Very helpful.

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Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:04 am
Finally moved to Texas

Last post by Jumping Frog « Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:58 am
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by Antares » Sun Sep 06, 2015 12:17 pm

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I have a Missouri License to carry and moved to El Lago, Tx which might be part of Seabrook or Lake City I haven't been able to figure out this city...

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Yes.

Read (q), in particular, (q)(2)(B).

Note that school zone is defined in § 921, which is where you find the whole within 1000 feet of a school...

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Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:58 am
Free Resource-First Person Defender Series

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by LSUTiger » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:15 pm

YouTube is your friend.

Gun Talk Media
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First Person Defender Series, as of this posting there is a...

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Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:15 pm
Houston Pistol Training Recommendations (Course/Instructor)

Last post by Jumping Frog « Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:23 pm
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by blwarren » Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:57 am

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Apart from experience as a teenager shooting rifles and pistols, I'm coming into firearm ownership as a blank slate. As I mentioned in The Waiting...

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Following up on Aaron Roberts, look at his website: onclick= window.open(this.href);return false;

The Spring Guns and Ammo website says his Thursday...

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Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:23 pm
Basic Rifle Training

Last post by LeonCarr « Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:13 am
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by newTexan » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:46 pm

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Hey,

Does anybody know someone who does basic rifle training (scoped hunting rifle or AR15), possibly 1-on-1, near the Austin area?

Thanks!

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Good People.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

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Last post by LeonCarr
Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:13 am
Basic hand gun training close to Corinth?

Last post by RoadRunnerTR21 « Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:44 pm
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by RoadRunnerTR21 » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:09 am

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I have a DIL that could use some basic hand gun training. She is talking about getting her CHL but needs basic training first. Unfortunately I live...

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Thank you all! I will pass this information along to her.

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Last post by RoadRunnerTR21
Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:44 pm
Training recommendations, Basic handgun Austin Area

Last post by stroo « Thu May 21, 2015 5:33 pm
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by E.Marquez » Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:15 am

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Mods, if this is the worng forum, please move.. I did not see a more appropriate one to ask the question.

Looking for recommendations to a Basic...

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KR Training is great. They didn't like my OWB holster; they preferred IWB. But they explained their point of view very well, I disagreed giving my...

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Last post by stroo
Thu May 21, 2015 5:33 pm
Firearm instructor in DFW (mid-cities)

Last post by Ed4032 « Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:16 pm
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by fickman » Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:59 am

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My father is interested in a basic (introductory) firearms course (maybe 1-2 sessions to start) that will prepare him for the CHL course and help...

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Strongly recommend Larry Bartek.

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Last post by Ed4032
Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:16 pm
Gun Corps Training

Last post by PBratton « Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:25 pm
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by TVegas » Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:05 am

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I can't seem to find hardly any information about these guys anywhere on the internet. Gun Corps is a gun shop and training center in Bryan/College...

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couldn't get it to populate the page, but here's the link:

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Last post by PBratton
Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:25 pm
Review of Beyond CHL

Last post by PaJ « Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:30 am

by PaJ » Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:30 am

Last Saturday, my wife and I took a class called Beyond CHL, taught by Ben Branam. Ben also has a website: onclick= window.open(this.href);return...

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Last post by PaJ
Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:30 am
Firearm training in Houston for young boys

Last post by cajunautoxer « Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:34 pm
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by Stupid » Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:29 pm

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Are there any firearm training or shooting team a young boy can get or join? He's like 7 years old.

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Steve's a great guy and knows his stuff

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Last post by cajunautoxer
Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:34 pm
North DFW Weekday daytime CHL Class with Range?

Last post by TomV « Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:13 am
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by some guy » Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:16 pm

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Anybody suggest a CHL course that is during the day weekdays? I'm in Allen just North of Plano in DFW.
If possible prefer a class with the range...

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Bullet trap in Plano may have the class schedule that you need.

I tried to find it on their website and could not. They are on K just north of Park...

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Last post by TomV
Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:13 am
Instructors offering classes in Snyder?

Last post by troglodyte « Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:32 pm
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by RogueUSMC » Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:23 pm

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I looked at the schools listing and didn't see anything in Snyder. I have a friend who wants to get herself and her husband into a class. The one she...

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Never have had the pleasure...but I don't get out much.

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Last post by troglodyte
Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:32 pm
Review of Training from Tac Pro Shooting Center

Last post by LTUME1978 « Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:07 pm
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by Paladin » Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:18 pm

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A buddy of mine just got deployed to Afghanistan. He's been in the reserves for quite some time, but I ragged on him enough that he finally went out...

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Another place to get training is CSAT. Paul Howe was career military with 10 years in Delta. He has a class that is limited to military/law...

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Last post by LTUME1978
Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:07 pm
Blauer-Jeff Gonzales Concealed Combatives Course

Last post by TNacp99 « Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:01 pm
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by TNacp99 » Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:11 am

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My thoughts on this course from November 21-23, 2014

Course Objective: to teach physical combatives in the event of a surprise ambush/attack prior...

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Here are some photos of our class in action

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Last post by TNacp99
Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:01 pm
Training in DFW - Critical Defense Group

Last post by TVGuy « Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:50 pm
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by TVGuy » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:56 am

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I took Defensive Handgun 1 from Critical Defense Group near Greenville on Saturday. It was a great class with knowledgeable instructors and good...

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Apologies for the delayed response, I didn't notice your post until today. Since writing this I've now been back four additional times. Their...

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Last post by TVGuy
Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:50 pm
What's Next??

Last post by OneGun « Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:37 pm
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by OneGun » Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:56 am

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I have a question regarding training and preparedness. I took the NRA basic pistol safety class. I took the CHL class with my son and we obtained our...

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Thank You! I'll contact him and inquire into his current offering.

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Last post by OneGun
Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:37 pm
considering becoming a certified instructor

Last post by asbandr « Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:52 pm
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by asbandr » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:11 am

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I have been shooting for over a year now and have had my chl since May. I've become very much an advocate for gun rights and as a woman, I'm...

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Thanks so much for the replies! I am going to the range tomorrow and will talk to a friend up there about it.

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Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:52 pm
Marine discusses situational awareness training

Last post by mojo84 « Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:51 pm

by mojo84 » Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:51 pm

Training for military personnel fighting in the new style of wars and civilians out and about.

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The...

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Last post by mojo84
Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:51 pm
Class Review: First Aid for Firearms

Last post by n5wd « Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:24 am
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by ghentry » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:37 pm

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Disclaimer: I have no personal or financial interest in PerSys Medical Training Centers. I write this review only for the benefit of those that would...

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As a former paramedic and now a CHL Instructor, I agree!

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Last post by n5wd
Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:24 am
instructor near baytown tx. SE

Last post by cajunautoxer « Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:03 pm
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by Cummins24 » Sat Aug 02, 2014 1:20 pm

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I received my CHL but want to continue my training and knowledge any instructor around this area ?

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I shoot 3 gun with these guys. Not close but they are GTG

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Last post by cajunautoxer
Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:03 pm
IDPA SO Certification class ?

Last post by Cedar Park Dad « Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:57 pm
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by jbmac » Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:06 pm

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I am looking for an IDPA Safety Officer Certification class in the Austin Texas area. Does anyone have any info regarding upcoming classes?

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Look for the guy with the Aggie Dad hat if you're going saturday. That be me!

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Last post by Cedar Park Dad
Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:57 pm
Good defensive handgun training within 2 hours of DFW?

Last post by jimlongley « Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:07 am
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by TVGuy » Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:08 am

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I'm looking to see if anyone can recommend a good defensive/tactical handgun training course/school in or close to DFW. It looks like most of the...

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Paul at onclick= window.open(this.href);return false;

and

Scott at onclick= window.open(this.href);return false;

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Last post by jimlongley
Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:07 am
Training Supplies

Last post by RKlenka « Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:29 pm
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by brooks9093 » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:08 pm

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I must be looking in all of the wrong places.

I was just certified this past week in Georgetown

Where should i look to purchase targets / blue gun...

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I can shoot much better than i can throw any stars though :P

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Last post by RKlenka
Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:29 pm
AAR Civilian Response to Active Shooter course at CSAT

Last post by jbarn « Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:19 am
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by cconn » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:36 am

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First a little background about me. I am 38 years old, and have been carrying a concealed handgun since I was 21 and able to get the license.

Over...

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I missed the course last year, but he has another coming up in August. I intend to be there. I have yet to take a course from Howe, but he is one of...

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Last post by jbarn
Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:19 am
Empty Hands Knife Defense DFW 22 Feb 14

Last post by ELB « Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:58 am

by ELB » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:58 am

I see periodic comments about wishing to find defensive knife related training. Here's an excellent opportunity:

421 North Grants Lane Suite A,...

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Last post by ELB
Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:58 am
Any experience with AWATT carbine? (Houston area)

Last post by cajunautoxer « Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:32 pm
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by tonzofphun » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:17 am

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I am always on the look out for some training. I came across this company while searching the inter webs but I couldn't find any more information...

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This is just my opinion but I ain't shelling out $500 and not know who's the instructor

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Last post by cajunautoxer
Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:32 pm
GREAT SESSION

Last post by longtooth « Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:14 pm
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by longtooth » Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:35 pm

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I just got home from maybe my most fun training session in my life.
Person I trained a yr or so ago had kin come to Texas from one of the really...

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I do believe they will go back w/ a very positive feeling toward folks who carry.

Yes:
Remember the Alamo
Remember Goliad
Remember San Jacento
You...

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Last post by longtooth
Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:14 pm
Assistant Instructor?

Last post by thatguy « Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:24 am

by thatguy » Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:24 am

I would like to set up an NRA certified pistol class at The Arms Room for some time in December 2013, would any other NRA instructors be interested...

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Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:24 am
One On One CHl Class in my Home

Last post by dedeye « Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:25 am
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by dedeye » Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:03 am

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Need CHL class in my home. Corpus Christi

Thanks
dedeye
:patriot: :txflag:

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Starry Range would be the closest.

dedeye

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Last post by dedeye
Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:25 am
chl renewal confusion

Last post by jmra « Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:59 pm
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by FuziDave » Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:06 pm

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so i'm up for my first renewal. and i'm a bit confused.

i got a letter from the TX DPS saying i can do the renewal application online and pay....

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As of Sep 1 renewal classes are no longer required. You will want to review the other changes in the laws related to CHL that also went into effect...

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Last post by jmra
Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:59 pm
Any instructors open to exchange of services ?

Last post by TexasVet « Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:25 am

by TexasVet » Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:25 am

Hi All,

I wanted to see if there are any instructors in the Dallas/NOrth Dallas/East Dallas area that are open to bartering services for theirs. I...

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Last post by TexasVet
Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:25 am
Instructor certification for Basic Pistol, Home Defense?

Last post by MotherBear « Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:18 pm

by MotherBear » Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:18 pm

Thought I'd get feedback on something I've been tossing around in my head for a while. I'm not a very advanced shooter by any stretch of the...

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Last post by MotherBear
Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:18 pm
NRA Training Counselor Workshop

Last post by goheeled « Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:47 pm
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by TraCoun » Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:46 pm

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As some of you know, I am an NRA Training Counselor. I am trying to put together enough people to have the NRA do a Training Counselor Workshop at...

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Do you know of any NRA Training Counselor Workshops taking place here in Texas anytime soon?

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Last post by goheeled
Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:47 pm
Renewal class at the Arms Room

Last post by BradGroux « Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:23 pm
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by BHill » Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:08 pm

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My wife and I just finished up our class at the Arms Room today and wanted to report that Tom Estep and Brian Mobley are every bit as good as I had...

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Thanks for the feedback! I'm up for a renewal and since Charles doesn't have any on the schedule I'll give The Arms Room a look.

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Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:23 pm
Friendswood Area: New Handgun Courses

Last post by Charles L. Cotton « Fri May 31, 2013 12:03 pm

by Charles L. Cotton » Fri May 31, 2013 12:03 pm

Over the years I've had quite a lot of CHL students and prospective students ask about a class for handgun novices. In response to these requests, a...

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Last post by Charles L. Cotton
Fri May 31, 2013 12:03 pm
Ladies CHL near New Braunfels

Last post by jmra « Fri May 17, 2013 6:01 am
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by DevilDawg » Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:37 pm

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MOD's move if not the right area please.

My sister is in the New Braunfels area and looking to take her class in the near future. My brother and...

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Let us know when you get moved. I'll print out your avatar, put it at the head of the table and my family will have a welcome home party in your...

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Last post by jmra
Fri May 17, 2013 6:01 am
need renewal asap?

Last post by longtooth « Mon May 13, 2013 9:04 am
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by pcernuch » Mon May 13, 2013 8:22 am

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good morning,

I need to get my renewal done asap. would ideally like to do is during the week if possible. i live in carrollton 75010 and work in...

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Contact Crossfire. They have week day classes occasionally.

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Last post by longtooth
Mon May 13, 2013 9:04 am
NRA Basic Pistol Instructor - NW Houston

Last post by n5wd « Fri May 10, 2013 3:12 pm
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by CigarStix » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:49 pm

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I'm taking my NRA Basic Pistol Instructor Course next month.

Space Needed. Anybody have any space available where I can hold classes?

Thanks....

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Go to: and search the available courses, there. They'll tell you quickly what's available - then follow up with the ones your're interested in to see...

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Last post by n5wd
Fri May 10, 2013 3:12 pm
AAR - Stephen Pineau (M3 Strategies) Private Carbine Course

Last post by foxhound « Fri May 10, 2013 1:57 pm

by foxhound » Fri May 10, 2013 1:57 pm

AAR - May 8, 2013 - Private Carbine 1 class with Stephen Pineau, from M3 Strategies

Let me start off by saying that Stephen is an awesome guy and...

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Last post by foxhound
Fri May 10, 2013 1:57 pm
Questions regarding testing procedures

Last post by jmra « Mon May 06, 2013 6:33 am
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by pkgrif » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:06 pm

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How is the knowledge portion of the test administered? And what should I expect in the classroom, power-point presentation, handouts or manuals, etc?...

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Amen!

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Last post by jmra
Mon May 06, 2013 6:33 am
A few newb questions

Last post by Neverpanic1 « Sat May 04, 2013 9:40 pm
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by MikeHoncho » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:49 pm

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Greetings Ladies and Gents,
I have a few questions that I hope you'll be good enough to help with. I am a High School teacher and have held a CHL...

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I believe the instructor class fee went up to $200 (not certain) and must have their NRA certification prior to attending the Instructor's Class as...

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Last post by Neverpanic1
Sat May 04, 2013 9:40 pm
Class A Misdemeanor 7yrs out

Last post by Crossfire « Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:04 am
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by tomtexan » Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:20 am

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I'm no expert but I believe one must wait only five years if it is a Class A or B misdemeanor.

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If he was 17, he wasn't a minor. But, either way, a Class A is a disqualifier for 5 years from the date of conviction.

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Last post by Crossfire
Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:04 am
Class recommendations for DFW area

Last post by Salty1 « Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:54 am
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by Superman » Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:57 am

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I'd like to take my wife to a beginner handgun class in the DFW area. I've looked at the sticky thread here and there are lots of options. Any good...

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Denton County Sports, he has a great Handgun 101 class, lots of patience with new shooters and many years of experience. My wife took it and really...

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Last post by Salty1
Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:54 am
Weekday class in Waco to Austin corridor?

Last post by Waco1959 « Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:11 pm

by Waco1959 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:11 pm

I have a friend looking for a weekday CHL class in the Waco or Austin area. Anyone aware of any?

TIA!

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Last post by Waco1959
Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:11 pm
Hunter Safety Course

Last post by Capt b-ray « Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:06 pm
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by Capt b-ray » Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:56 pm

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Looking for a hunter safety course for my kids in the Houston, Angelina or Polk county area. I have looked on the TPW web site. Closest thing I can...

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Yea I saw them, just hate to go to Houston. May do the online thing, that way I only have to go once. I know the local 4h leaders or Ag. teachers use...

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Last post by Capt b-ray
Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:06 pm
1st Renewal Experience - Crossfire Training

Last post by magicglock « Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:51 pm

by magicglock » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:51 pm

I was aprehensive about taking another CHL class after the horrible experience I had with my initial class at DFW Shooting Range in Dallas 4.5 years...

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Last post by magicglock
Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:51 pm
21st Century Gunfighter - Handgun I - Review

Last post by knotquiteawake « Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:53 pm
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by Sangiovese » Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:07 pm

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I attended 21st Century Gunfighter's Handgun I class last Saturday and thought I would provide a quick review.

Handgun I was a day long class aimed...

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I've been interested in taking handgun classes like that but have been on the fence. Its really great to hear all about it.

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Last post by knotquiteawake
Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:53 pm
NRA Refuse To Be A Victim and Home Firearm Safety

Last post by mrvmax « Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:00 am
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by 77346 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:09 pm

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Today me and my family attended two NRA classes: Refuse To Be A Victim and Home Firearm Safety . These aren't shooting courses.

The first course,...

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Thanks for the review of the classes, sounds interesting.

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Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:00 am

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