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Re: Anyone personally know of an open range?

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Post by uthornsfan » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:06 pm

I was under the impression that for rifles the minimum was 50. A city or subdivision does not supercede that minimum.


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Post by Mike S » Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:11 am

It's just a little further down in the penal code you linked to:
Sec. 229.004. REGULATION OF DISCHARGE OF WEAPON BY CERTAIN MUNICIPALITIES.

(a) This section applies only to a municipality located in a county in which the majority of the population of two or more municipalities with a population of 300,000 or more are located./quote].

Increases the minimum to 100 acres for centerfire pistol & rifle, IF the population meets a certain size, AND IF the local government enacts an ordinance. If the local government doesn't pass a law/ordinance, then there's no restriction.


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Post by uthornsfan » Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:53 am

So my original answer still stands correct. The absolute bare minimum to shoot rifles is 50 acres, certain locations increase this to 100.

Either way 12 may only be good enough for pistol, shotgun, bow, and air.

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Post by Beiruty » Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:23 am

uthornsfan wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:53 am
So my original answer still stands correct. The absolute bare minimum to shoot rifles is 50 acres, certain locations increase this to 100.

Either way 12 may only be good enough for pistol, shotgun, bow, and air.
Isn't that depends if the property was part of a city or un-incroportaed in a county.
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Post by jmorris » Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:26 pm

Yes, I conflated .004(b)(2)(A) with .002(2)(A) but these all apply only within a municipality. I don't know why .004 sticks in my head. Jump to the bottom for the county regulation.

Sec. 229.002. REGULATION OF DISCHARGE OF WEAPON. A municipality may not apply a regulation relating to the discharge of firearms or other weapons in the extraterritorial jurisdiction of the municipality or in an area annexed by the municipality after September 1, 1981, if the firearm or other weapon is:
(1) a shotgun, air rifle or pistol, BB gun, or bow and arrow discharged:
(A) on a tract of land of 10 acres or more and more than 150 feet from a residence or occupied building located on another property; and
(B) in a manner not reasonably expected to cause a projectile to cross the boundary of the tract; or
(2) a center fire or rim fire rifle or pistol of any caliber discharged:
(A) on a tract of land of 50 acres or more and more than 300 feet from a residence or occupied building located on another property; and
(B) in a manner not reasonably expected to cause a projectile to cross the boundary of the tract.

Sec. 229.003. REGULATION OF DISCHARGE OF WEAPON BY CERTAIN MUNICIPALITIES. (a) This section applies only to a municipality located wholly or partly in a county:
(1) with a population of 750,000 or more;
(2) in which all or part of a municipality with a population of one million or more is located; and
(3) that is located adjacent to a county with a population of two million or more.
(b) Notwithstanding Section 229.002, a municipality may not apply a regulation relating to the discharge of firearms or other weapons in the extraterritorial jurisdiction of the municipality or in an area annexed by the municipality after September 1, 1981, if the firearm or other weapon is:
(1) a shotgun, air rifle or pistol, BB gun, or bow and arrow discharged:
(A) on a tract of land of 10 acres or more and:
(i) more than 1,000 feet from:
(a) the property line of a public tract of land, generally accessible by the public, that is routinely used for organized sporting or recreational activities or that has permanent recreational facilities or equipment; and
(b) the property line of a school, hospital, or commercial day-care facility;
(ii) more than 600 feet from:
(a) the property line of a residential subdivision; and
(b) the property line of a multifamily residential complex; and
(iii) more than 150 feet from a residence or occupied building located on another property; and
(B) in a manner not reasonably expected to cause a projectile to cross the boundary of the tract;
(2) a center fire or rim fire rifle or pistol of any caliber discharged:
(A) on a tract of land of 50 acres or more and:
(i) more than 1,000 feet from:
(a) the property line of a public tract of land, generally accessible by the public, that is routinely used for organized sporting or recreational activities or that has permanent recreational facilities or equipment; and
(b) the property line of a school, hospital, or commercial day-care facility;
(ii) more than 600 feet from:
(a) the property line of a residential subdivision; and
(b) the property line of a multifamily residential complex; and
(iii) more than 300 feet from a residence or occupied building located on another property; and
(B) in a manner not reasonably expected to cause a projectile to cross the boundary of the tract; or
(3) discharged at a sport shooting range, as defined by Section 250.001, in a manner not reasonably expected to cause a projectile to cross the boundary of a tract of land.

Sec. 229.004. REGULATION OF DISCHARGE OF WEAPON BY CERTAIN MUNICIPALITIES. (a) This section applies only to a municipality located in a county in which the majority of the population of two or more municipalities with a population of 300,000 or more are located.
(b) Notwithstanding Section 229.002, a municipality may not apply a regulation relating to the discharge of firearms or other weapons in the extraterritorial jurisdiction of the municipality or in an area annexed by the municipality on or before September 1, 1981, if the firearm or other weapon is:
(1) a shotgun, air rifle or pistol, BB gun, or bow and arrow discharged:
(A) on a tract of land of 100 acres or more and more than 150 feet from a residence or occupied building located on another property; and
(B) in a manner not reasonably expected to cause a projectile to cross the boundary of the tract; or
(2) a center fire or rim fire rifle or pistol of any caliber discharged:
(A) on a tract of land of 100 acres or more and more than 300 feet from a residence or occupied building located on another property; and
(B) in a manner not reasonably expected to cause a projectile to cross the boundary of the tract.

CHAPTER 235. COUNTY REGULATION OF MATTERS RELATING TO EXPLOSIVES AND WEAPONS
SUBCHAPTER B. FIREARMS
Sec. 235.020. DEFINITION. In this subchapter, "air gun" has the meaning assigned by Section 229.001.
Sec. 235.021. SUBDIVISIONS COVERED BY SUBCHAPTER. This subchapter applies only to a subdivision all or a part of which is located in the unincorporated area of a county and for which a plat is required to be prepared and filed under Chapter 232.
Sec. 235.022. AUTHORITY TO REGULATE. To promote the public safety, the commissioners court of a county by order may prohibit or otherwise regulate the discharge of firearms and air guns on lots that are 10 acres or smaller and are located in the unincorporated area of the county in a subdivision.


So yes, I could fire aa rifle on the lot I was looking at in the county, not in a subdivision, and over 10 acres anyway.
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