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C-dub wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:50 am I wonder if the police would have been within their legal rights to search him before the paramedics revived him.

Liberty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:59 pm Narcan should be banned. Incidents like this wouldn't happen, and the opioid/fentanyl crises would resolve itself. People who set out on a path of self-destruction should be allowed to reach their destination.

crazy2medic wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:52 pm Your suppose to give them just enough narcan to get their breathing up but not enough to bring them conscious, if you give them a full dose it brings them all the way up and they are mad as heck you robbed them of their high!
What we would do is put them on a backboard, strap them down good and then give them the full dose, they'd be very very very upset and their language would be very colorful!

SRO1911 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:10 pm

Liberty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:59 pm Narcan should be banned. Incidents like this wouldn't happen, and the opioid/fentanyl crises would resolve itself. People who set out on a path of self-destruction should be allowed to reach their destination.

So the mother of 3 grandmother of 7 great grandma of many whom I recently gave numerous doses of narcan should have been intubated - which is the best alternative to naloxone, and extremely traumatic and given her age and conditions probably permanent - because her dentist is an idiot and prescribed an opioid without considering the fact that she was on a fairly potent fentanyl patch for BONE CANCER?

As EMS, we don't have the luxury of judgement - there are only 2 categories, too dead and not too dead. Our job is to make sure not too dead stays that way. Everyone is someone's child, is someone's husband\wife\girlfriend\boyfriend - it doesn't matter.

I absolutely support expanding the death penalty beyond just capital murder - pedophiles, rapists, child abusers and telemarketers among others deserve the gallows as an option - but I'll be dam**d if EMS gets to be judge, jury, and Executioner.

anygunanywhere wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:54 pm

SRO1911 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:10 pm

Liberty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:59 pm Narcan should be banned. Incidents like this wouldn't happen, and the opioid/fentanyl crises would resolve itself. People who set out on a path of self-destruction should be allowed to reach their destination.

So the mother of 3 grandmother of 7 great grandma of many whom I recently gave numerous doses of narcan should have been intubated - which is the best alternative to naloxone, and extremely traumatic and given her age and conditions probably permanent - because her dentist is an idiot and prescribed an opioid without considering the fact that she was on a fairly potent fentanyl patch for BONE CANCER?

As EMS, we don't have the luxury of judgement - there are only 2 categories, too dead and not too dead. Our job is to make sure not too dead stays that way. Everyone is someone's child, is someone's husband\wife\girlfriend\boyfriend - it doesn't matter.

I absolutely support expanding the death penalty beyond just capital murder - pedophiles, rapists, child abusers and telemarketers among others deserve the gallows as an option - but I'll be dam**d if EMS gets to be judge, jury, and Executioner.

Great post sir.