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Protest the fact that they are undocumented.

It’s so over for Europe.

philip964 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:49 pm It’s so over for Europe.

And the USA is soon to follow if we cannot control our borders or remove those that have come into the country illegally.

This seems a bit like calling a spy an "undocumented foreign agent": technically true, but glossing over the central point.

Immigration at will to any nation of one's choosing is not a fundamental human right. The ills that plague Mexico and Central America dont improve with the export of their working age males to the US. We seem to gloss over the fact that the economic value of an illegal immigrant is his/her ability and willingness to be exploited for below market wages. That circumstance has two awful effects:
1) illegal immigrants fill the same economic niche as slaves
2) they suppress wages for all other low skilled workers

I would gladly cut grass for $400k/yr. Folks who don't have the same alternatives would probably work a lot cheaper. But someone who cannot appeal to the authorities about minimum wage and whose options are work on a banana plantation in Guatemala or starvation will work for almost nothing. Illegal immigrants don't steal our jobs; they suppress blue collar wages. Americans absolutely would do those jobs for the right price, but an influx of people whose sole value is exploit ability strongly suppress price discovery.

I cant grasp how someone could come out against slavery and income inequality (which are similar and similarly terrible crimes) but support mass illegal immigration. The Democrats seem to support Trump's unflattering characterization of those nations with the suggestion that they are beyond saving and that their people should all flee to the US. God didn't decree that Central America is a violent wasteland; the British and Spanish empires did. The path forward for them isn't pseudo-slavery in the US, but following the path set by Costa Rica.

What was the fall of Rome and by whom?

By allowing undocumented invaders in, not only does it suppress wages, but diseases that had been under control or not endemic are now becoming common!

Papa_Tiger wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:28 pm

philip964 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:49 pm It’s so over for Europe.

And the USA is soon to follow if we cannot control our borders or remove those that have come into the country illegally.

We are way past the point of no return.

anygunanywhere wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:59 am

Papa_Tiger wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:28 pm

philip964 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:49 pm It’s so over for Europe.

And the USA is soon to follow if we cannot control our borders or remove those that have come into the country illegally.

We are way past the point of no return.

The U.S. House recently voted to import more foreigners to undercut salaries of American workers. (H.R. 1044)

It will be interesting to see how Senators vote. Will they side with the American people who voted for them or the global corporations who line their pockets? If it passes the Senate, it will be very interesting to see if President Trump vetoes it. Will he Put America First or stab American workers in the back and feed them to The Swamp?

Alf wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:30 am

anygunanywhere wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:59 am

Papa_Tiger wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:28 pm

philip964 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:49 pm It’s so over for Europe.

And the USA is soon to follow if we cannot control our borders or remove those that have come into the country illegally.

We are way past the point of no return.

The U.S. House recently voted to import more foreigners to undercut salaries of American workers. (H.R. 1044)

It will be interesting to see how Senators vote. Will they side with the American people who voted for them or the global corporations who line their pockets? If it passes the Senate, it will be very interesting to see if President Trump vetoes it. Will he Put America First or stab American workers in the back and feed them to The Swamp?

More specifically, they voted to remove country specific quotas for green card applicants, meaning that about 3/4 of future permanent residents will come from a single country. I'll let you guess which one.

crazy2medic wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:52 am By allowing undocumented invaders in, not only does it suppress wages, but diseases that had been under control or not endemic are now becoming common!

You are right about some diseases but our homeless and anti-vaccination wierdos are greatly contributing to the resurgence of disease that were once eliminated. Will we be seeing polio next? Or even worse.

I'm waiting for the first reports of Bubonic Plague or Typhoid epidemic in California