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My BIL who is in the local LEO community (Brunswick) is gearing up for a spectacle and circus.

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Attorney Andrew Branca explains:
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Attorney Andrew Branda explains:
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https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/ahmaud ... -the-stand

The Georgia "jogger" murder trial is being overshadowed by the Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Wisconsin.

The shooter took the stand and it appears did a pretty good job of defending himself. He was taught in the Coast Guard that hands and fists are weapons. His pick up truck had been burglarized so much he left it unlocked.
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philip964 wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:32 pm https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/ahmaud ... -the-stand

The Georgia "jogger" murder trial is being overshadowed by the Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Wisconsin.

The shooter took the stand and it appears did a pretty good job of defending himself. He was taught in the Coast Guard that hands and fists are weapons. His pick up truck had been burglarized so much he left it unlocked.
He’s toast today under cross examination.
So many lessons for anyone involved in a shooting.
Careful about social media posts, careful in what’s in your statement to officers arriving on scene.

It’s amazing how different Kyle performed under cross exam compared to Travis.
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What I've seen the jogger could have waited for the police to arrive, run through the woods, instead he chose to run up and down the road and charge someone holding a shotgun.

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Slowly hold hands up. Say don’t shoot. Stand still. Freeze. Turn around and run away (distance is your friend). Keep hand still and where guy with shot gun can see them.

Don’t: reach in you pockets, make sudden moves. Reach behind your back.

In no case run towards someone with a shotgun pointed at you.

There are exceptions. But not here in this case.
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Verdict:

Travis McMichael
Count 1, Malice Murder: Guilty
Count 2, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 3, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 4, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 5, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 6, Aggravated Assault: Guilty
Count 7, Aggravated Assault: Guilty
Count 8, False Imprisonment: Guilty
Count 9, Criminal Attempt to Commit a Felony: Guilty

Greg McMichael
Count 1, Malice Murder: Not Guilty
Count 2, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 3, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 4, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 5, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 6, Aggravated Assault: Guilty
Count 7, Aggravated Assault: Guilty
Count 8, False Imprisonment: Guilty
Count 9, Criminal Attempt to Commit a Felony: Guilty

William Bryan
Count 1, Malice Murder: Not Guilty
Count 2, Felony Murder: Not Guilty
Count 3, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 4, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 5, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 6, Aggravated Assault: Not Guilty
Count 7, Aggravated Assault: Guilty
Count 8, False Imprisonment: Guilty
Count 9, Criminal Attempt to Commit a Felony: Guilty
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Justice has been served in WI & GA.
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In Wisconsin. Not so much in Georgia in my opinion.

They were already tried and found guilty in the media, this was a show trial. Now we get to the sentencing, which I’m sure will reflect the thirst for vengeance of the mob.

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Jeff B. wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:59 pm In Wisconsin. Not so much in Georgia in my opinion.

They were already tried and found guilty in the media, this was a show trial. Now we get to the sentencing, which I’m sure will reflect the thirst for vengeance of the mob.

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Rafe wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:37 pm Verdict:

Travis McMichael
Count 1, Malice Murder: Guilty
Count 2, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 3, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 4, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 5, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 6, Aggravated Assault: Guilty
Count 7, Aggravated Assault: Guilty
Count 8, False Imprisonment: Guilty
Count 9, Criminal Attempt to Commit a Felony: Guilty

Greg McMichael
Count 1, Malice Murder: Not Guilty
Count 2, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 3, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 4, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 5, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 6, Aggravated Assault: Guilty
Count 7, Aggravated Assault: Guilty
Count 8, False Imprisonment: Guilty
Count 9, Criminal Attempt to Commit a Felony: Guilty

William Bryan
Count 1, Malice Murder: Not Guilty
Count 2, Felony Murder: Not Guilty
Count 3, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 4, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 5, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 6, Aggravated Assault: Not Guilty
Count 7, Aggravated Assault: Guilty
Count 8, False Imprisonment: Guilty
Count 9, Criminal Attempt to Commit a Felony: Guilty
Can somebody explain why there are multiple counts of Felony Murder?

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BigGuy wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:21 pm
Rafe wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:37 pm Verdict:

Travis McMichael
Count 1, Malice Murder: Guilty
Count 2, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 3, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 4, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 5, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 6, Aggravated Assault: Guilty
Count 7, Aggravated Assault: Guilty
Count 8, False Imprisonment: Guilty
Count 9, Criminal Attempt to Commit a Felony: Guilty

Greg McMichael
Count 1, Malice Murder: Not Guilty
Count 2, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 3, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 4, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 5, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 6, Aggravated Assault: Guilty
Count 7, Aggravated Assault: Guilty
Count 8, False Imprisonment: Guilty
Count 9, Criminal Attempt to Commit a Felony: Guilty

William Bryan
Count 1, Malice Murder: Not Guilty
Count 2, Felony Murder: Not Guilty
Count 3, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 4, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 5, Felony Murder: Guilty
Count 6, Aggravated Assault: Not Guilty
Count 7, Aggravated Assault: Guilty
Count 8, False Imprisonment: Guilty
Count 9, Criminal Attempt to Commit a Felony: Guilty
Can somebody explain why there are multiple counts of Felony Murder?

Four "other" felonies that were deemed to also result in the death. A couple counts of aggrevated assult, false imprisonment and attempted false imprisonment.
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https://lawofselfdefense.com/ahmaud-ar ... ly-guilty/

Look here, breaks down the felony murder.

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