Re: Let's Really Protect Our Schools
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:22 am
This training sounds very worthwhile.
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Absolutely! Thanks for publishing it. We need to get people behind this concept so we can get it done. It took four legislative sessions (8 yrs.) to pass campus-carry, thee sessions to exempt volunteer church security from the Private Security Act and I could go on. We cannot afford to make this a multi-session battle.locke_n_load wrote:Charles, I have copied and pasted this message, unedited, onto my facebook business page (LTC/Firearms training), and given citation that it is from published from texasfirearmscoalition.com. Is that acceptable?
That addresses the round count, but not deviating from the required course. I've heard a lot of good things about Karl and this course is probably excellent, but if it violates the DPS instructions not to deviate from the specified course, then there may be a problem.oljames3 wrote:From KR Training's course description (There is a typo in the description. The Shooting Under Duress shooting exercise developed by DPS is 120 rounds, not 50 rounds.)
To be clear, Karl assured me that all was done as specified by DPS. Just as in an LTC class, there was time for additional material, exercises, and instruction. I apologize for not counting rounds for each course of fire.Charles L. Cotton wrote:That addresses the round count, but not deviating from the required course. I've heard a lot of good things about Karl and this course is probably excellent, but if it violates the DPS instructions not to deviate from the specified course, then there may be a problem.oljames3 wrote:From KR Training's course description (There is a typo in the description. The Shooting Under Duress shooting exercise developed by DPS is 120 rounds, not 50 rounds.)
Chas.
"Not counting rounds . . .[?]" My comments were not based upon your description of the class, but upon the express language in the course description. I understand there was a typo in the number of rounds required for the shooting under duress segment. Typos can happen to anyone. However, the class is listed as 15 hrs (the statutory minimum) and the description includes shooting drills other than what DPS requires and allows. If the class is the minimum required 15 hrs, then there isn't any extra time for additional drills. I'm not trying to nit-pick. When a State authorized Certificate is being issued, then all course requirements must be met.oljames3 wrote:To be clear, Karl assured me that all was done as specified by DPS. Just as in an LTC class, there was time for additional material, exercises, and instruction. I apologize for not counting rounds for each course of fire.Charles L. Cotton wrote:That addresses the round count, but not deviating from the required course. I've heard a lot of good things about Karl and this course is probably excellent, but if it violates the DPS instructions not to deviate from the specified course, then there may be a problem.oljames3 wrote:From KR Training's course description (There is a typo in the description. The Shooting Under Duress shooting exercise developed by DPS is 120 rounds, not 50 rounds.)
Chas.
No problem. When it comes time for a lot of publicity on these items, please post them to the Texas Firearms Coalition facebook page for easy sharing! Very easy to just punch that share button!Charles L. Cotton wrote:Absolutely! Thanks for publishing it. We need to get people behind this concept so we can get it done. It took four legislative sessions (8 yrs.) to pass campus-carry, thee sessions to exempt volunteer church security from the Private Security Act and I could go on. We cannot afford to make this a multi-session battle.locke_n_load wrote:Charles, I have copied and pasted this message, unedited, onto my facebook business page (LTC/Firearms training), and given citation that it is from published from texasfirearmscoalition.com. Is that acceptable?
Chas.
Visit a jewelry store, a casino, even regular shopping malls and you'll find armed security everywhere. Why? Because evil walks our streets, even if we would rather live in blissful denial.
Seems pretty clear doesn't it? Me likey your post!Pawpaw wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Absolutely! Thanks for publishing it. We need to get people behind this concept so we can get it done. It took four legislative sessions (8 yrs.) to pass campus-carry, thee sessions to exempt volunteer church security from the Private Security Act and I could go on. We cannot afford to make this a multi-session battle.locke_n_load wrote:Charles, I have copied and pasted this message, unedited, onto my facebook business page (LTC/Firearms training), and given citation that it is from published from texasfirearmscoalition.com. Is that acceptable?
Chas.
Both the AF and Navy have quite a few MOS's that require extensive firearms training.Soccerdad1995 wrote:Maybe we should limit the "veteran" part to just Army and Marines and not necessarily include other non-combat branches. FWIW, my brother told me that he never fired a weapon of any kind during his time in Navy basic training, either.rotor wrote:Spent 2 weeks at Sheppard. They let us observe an enlisted man hold an AR-15 to his chin, shoot a watermelon which exploded, and that one single round was my total experience with firearms in the service. I had my own firearms of course. The point is that just because you are a veteran does not mean you know anything about firearms. I am also an experienced pilot with multiple ratings but never once went up in a military plane. I wish that i could have played with all of the toys but never did.clarionite wrote:How did you go through Basic and not fire a military weapon? I went through Army basic and fired Rifles, threw grenades and fired AT4 trainers.rotor wrote:FYI, although I had 8 years of active duty in the USAF I never once had any training in firearms or ever touched a military weapon. The closest I came to weapon training was watching an AR-15 shot at a watermelon. All firearm use that I had was on my own. The concept that military service and firearm training go hand in hand is not correct. Otherwise your project sounds great.
I have two kids in the USAF currently, and they both qualified with rifles. My daughter was excited to have made expert, told me I trained her well. She was the only one in her group that did. I told her she was probably the only one in her group that owned her own, so it was to be expected. Although hers has very non standard issue Pink furniture. ;)
Every Marine is a rifleman... and every one I ever competed against was an exceptional rifleman.Soccerdad1995 wrote:... I presume also the Marines.