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She knows the real work is done outside these meetings and hearings.

I was very surprised that there were more people to speak against campus carry than there were against open carry. I just thought open carry would be a more polarizing topic. I know Mr. Cotton has said there is widespread support for campus carry from both side of the legislature, so seeing just how many people (or lack thereof) spoke against open carry makes me even more guardedly optimistic. Wishful thinking?? I hope not.

TBM

I didn't see the campus carry testimony. Was it mostly college age kids and teachers against it? I read somewhere, there were college kids getting together to go to the Capitol today.

mojo84 wrote:I didn't see the campus carry testimony. Was it mostly college age kids and teachers against it? I read somewhere, there were college kids getting together to go to the Capitol today.

There were a couple of college kids representing college groups pro, and a few college students from UT against. But what really struck me most was the number of women against. Maybe I'm a little more sensitive being a woman and all, but I just couldn't believe the amount of women testifying that they trust that campus security and law enforcement would be there to protect them. Not one of those women recognized the need to protect themselves. There was actually one woman who said she would rather NO ONE be on the elementary campus to protect her child from a madman than have a School Marshall on campus with 80 hours of TECLEOSE training. And her husband is Federal LEO, and she comes from big family background of guns and hunting. She would rather send children to the slaughter than have someone who was less trained than a police officer, but waaayy more trained than a CHL holder, to protect her kids. OUTRAGEOUS!! Then there were the typical professor/liberal types against any guns on campus. Their stance was about 'feeling'. How classrooms would feel more volatile if the students knew the professor/other students were armed. How we should be using more taxpayer money to fight mental health issues. Typical lib smack. More about "I think" than "the Constitution says". I was just flabbergasted at how many women got up there and deferred their self-defense to others (men). Now I begin to see how FauxBama won the female voters over. Travesty.

TBM

Seems like we had more educators %for% in 2013 than in 2011 so that's better; committee was more educated/informed and even more jovial than last time:

BTW, thanks to all who went, and those submitting written testimony who could not go; I know some missed work and drove hours and hours to be there and are driving hours and hours to get back home now.

The_Busy_Mom wrote:Every woman who testified, with the exception of Alice Trip and a vet-tech from A&M, were opposed to these bills.

That's not true. There was a woman who is retired but put in 38 years in teaching, some in NJ and then in Texas. She was a principal for the last 18 years of her career. (I'm doing this from memory, so my numbers are probably off.) She testified that she would have been opposed in the past but she now realizes that the best thing we can do for the children is to allow teachers with CHLs to carry at school.

The_Busy_Mom wrote:I was very surprised that there were more people to speak against campus carry than there were against open carry. I just thought open carry would be a more polarizing topic. I know Mr. Cotton has said there is widespread support for campus carry from both side of the legislature, so seeing just how many people (or lack thereof) spoke against open carry makes me even more guardedly optimistic. Wishful thinking?? I hope not.

TBM

The anti-campus carry group didn't get riled up until they realized it could actually pass. Maybe that's what's going on with the anti-open carry folks.

Faxes sent last night!

baldeagle wrote:

The_Busy_Mom wrote:I was very surprised that there were more people to speak against campus carry than there were against open carry. I just thought open carry would be a more polarizing topic. I know Mr. Cotton has said there is widespread support for campus carry from both side of the legislature, so seeing just how many people (or lack thereof) spoke against open carry makes me even more guardedly optimistic. Wishful thinking?? I hope not.

TBM

The anti-campus carry group didn't get riled up until they realized it could actually pass. Maybe that's what's going on with the anti-open carry folks.

I would also speculate that it's easier to rouse the groups against campus carry because it infringes on the sanctity of the University Environment - the bedrock of the Progressive movement. OC touches 99% of the state's footprint.

baldeagle wrote:

The_Busy_Mom wrote:Every woman who testified, with the exception of Alice Trip and a vet-tech from A&M, were opposed to these bills.

That's not true. There was a woman who is retired but put in 38 years in teaching, some in NJ and then in Texas. She was a principal for the last 18 years of her career. (I'm doing this from memory, so my numbers are probably off.) She testified that she would have been opposed in the past but she now realizes that the best thing we can for the children is to allow teachers with CHLs to carry at school.

You're right, completely forgot about her. I tried to keep a running mental list, but she slipped through the cracks. ------->>>>>> See my avatar!

TBM

The_Busy_Mom wrote: but she slipped through the cracks. ------->>>>>> See my avatar!

And she Ain't Kidding!!! Love ya babe!

I was tied up with work stuff all day yesterday & then home-stuff afterward. Is it too late to email/fax for this or are they still considering the bills?

TexasCajun wrote:I was tied up with work stuff all day yesterday & then home-stuff afterward. Is it too late to email/fax for this or are they still considering the bills?

keep sending does not hurt.

Will do!