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I don't normally read, or quote WAPO, but......

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:06 am
by Jusme
Sorry but I found this to be such a rediculous "study" that I had to post it.
It is titled: Actually Guns do kill people.
I'll let you read it and decide if the left has finally gotten as stupid as humanly possible.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/ ... edirect=on

Re: I don't normally read, or quote WAPO, but......

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:38 am
by bblhd672
Jusme wrote: Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:06 am Sorry but I found this to be such a rediculous "study" that I had to post it.
It is titled: Actually Guns do kill people.
I'll let you read it and decide if the left has finally gotten as stupid as humanly possible.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/ ... edirect=on
I don't actually have to subject myself to reading WaPo drivel to know the left is as stupid as humanly possible. :biggrinjester:

Re: I don't normally read, or quote WAPO, but......

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:16 pm
by philip964
(Spoiler Alert)

The conclusion is that if criminals could be convinced to use illegal hand guns in Boston that are of the .22 caliber version rather than 9mm or larger. Boston could reduce its deaths by guns by 40%.

Who knew it could be that simple.

Re: I don't normally read, or quote WAPO, but......

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:40 pm
by Oldgringo
Is it legal to shoot people in Boston?

Re: I don't normally read, or quote WAPO, but......

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:43 pm
by jonmo1
How about this, with all other things being equal...

Replace the shooters with law abiding citizens, I wonder how much the death rate would change?

Re: I don't normally read, or quote WAPO, but......

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:46 pm
by Allons
Analyzing data on hundreds of shootings in Boston from 2010 to 2014, Anthony Braga of Northeastern University and Philip J. Cook of Duke University found that on a bullet-per-bullet basis, shootings committed with a large-caliber firearm are much more likely to result in a fatality than those with a smaller-caliber gun.
I feel a lot smarter knowing this.

Re: I don't normally read, or quote WAPO, but......

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:16 pm
by Odinvalknir
They controlled for a number of other factors, such as circumstances of shootings and the number of times victims were shot. They then found that all else being equal, a person shot with a medium-caliber weapon, such as a common 9mm handgun, were roughly 2.3 times as likely to die of their wounds than someone shot with a small-caliber gun. Large-caliber gunshots were even deadlier, resulting in odds of death 4.5 times that of small-caliber gunshots.


A large pistol or rifle round is MORE deadly than a .22, or .32.... you dont say?!

Re: I don't normally read, or quote WAPO, but......

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:49 pm
by C-dub
On a side note, it looks like they finally settled the 9mm vs .45ACP debate. :biggrinjester:

Re: I don't normally read, or quote WAPO, but......

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:52 pm
by Allons
C-dub wrote: Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:49 pm On a side note, it looks like they finally settled the 9mm vs .45ACP debate. :biggrinjester:
:lol::

Re: I don't normally read, or quote WAPO, but......

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:06 pm
by Bitter Clinger
C-dub wrote: Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:49 pm On a side note, it looks like they finally settled the 9mm vs .45ACP debate. :biggrinjester:
And yet, as everyone knows "the faster you go, the bigger the mess"... :cheers2:

Re: I don't normally read, or quote WAPO, but......

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:56 pm
by The Annoyed Man
My experience is purely anecdotal, but it is true nonetheless - at least it was when this was happening in my life..... Sure, a GSW patient is more likely to die from a GSW caused by a .45 caliber bullet than a .22 caliber bullet; but a GSW patient is also MANY times more likely to be shot with a .22 than a .45. And this explains why the people I saw who were killed by a .22 outnumbered those killed by all other calibers combined - and that by a significant percentage.

Re: I don't normally read, or quote WAPO, but......

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:29 pm
by C-dub
The Annoyed Man wrote: Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:56 pm My experience is purely anecdotal, but it is true nonetheless - at least it was when this was happening in my life..... Sure, a GSW patient is more likely to die from a GSW caused by a .45 caliber bullet than a .22 caliber bullet; but a GSW patient is also MANY times more likely to be shot with a .22 than a .45. And this explains why the people I saw who were killed by a .22 outnumbered those killed by all other calibers combined - and that by a significant percentage.
Maybe that's because kids and bad guys can only afford .22LR.

Re: I don't normally read, or quote WAPO, but......

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:59 pm
by rotor
I wonder if getting hit by an SUV is worse than getting hit by a smartcar? Such things to ponder.

Re: I don't normally read, or quote WAPO, but......

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:29 pm
by howdy
The 9mm was paired with the 38 and the 45 was put in a group with the 10mm, .44 mag and a 7.62x39 round. I will agree that the 44, 10mm and AK-47 are more powerful than the 9mm.

Re: I don't normally read, or quote WAPO, but......

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:35 pm
by Syntyr
Odinvalknir wrote: Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:16 pm They controlled for a number of other factors, such as circumstances of shootings and the number of times victims were shot. They then found that all else being equal, a person shot with a medium-caliber weapon, such as a common 9mm handgun, were roughly 2.3 times as likely to die of their wounds than someone shot with a small-caliber gun. Large-caliber gunshots were even deadlier, resulting in odds of death 4.5 times that of small-caliber gunshots.


A large pistol or rifle round is MORE deadly than a .22, or .32.... you dont say?!
This just in folks... people subjected to a nuclear explosion are 1 billion trillion time more likely to die than being shot!

Morons!