Bloomberg campaign in TX

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Bloomberg campaign in TX

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Post by striker55 » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:08 am

Caught a news sound bite of Bloomberg saying something about 85% of NRA members agree we need a national background check for gun purchases. I'm I to assume anyone can buy a gun legally in TX without that call to the federal government? Is that not a background check? And in other states guns can be bought without a check? Someone enlighten me, please.


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Post by flechero » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:36 am

striker55 wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:08 am
Caught a news sound bite of Bloomberg saying something about 85% of NRA members agree we need a national background check for gun purchases. I'm I to assume anyone can buy a gun legally in TX without that call to the federal government? Is that not a background check? And in other states guns can be bought without a check? Someone enlighten me, please.
Lies and deception. 85% of bloomberg staffers, who were paid to lie for the "study"may have agreed on background checks, but not 85% of anyone else. :nono:

Every dealer must run a background check on every single gun sale, whether at a gunshow, on-line or brick & mortar. An individual however, can purchase a gun through private sale from another individual. The law allows this, it's not a loophole. The big caveat is that it puts the onus on the seller to be sure the buyer is legal to buy... and why many people only sell to LTC or friends. Or go to a FFL for the transfer.

Criminals aren't buying their guns at gunshows or from you and I, they are stealing them and/or buying from their accomplices. So any further burden on the law abiding is only a burden to the law abiding and a precursor to registration and eventual confiscation.


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Post by K.Mooneyham » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:36 am

striker55 wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:08 am
Caught a news sound bite of Bloomberg saying something about 85% of NRA members agree we need a national background check for gun purchases. I'm I to assume anyone can buy a gun legally in TX without that call to the federal government? Is that not a background check? And in other states guns can be bought without a check? Someone enlighten me, please.
The problem is two-fold. One, what is the definition of a "background check"; there are several. Two, are they speaking of purchases of firearms from a licensed dealer, or the private sale between two individuals? People like Bloomberg really want to all but outlaw all firearms ownership. Since he and his minions know that is a goal too far, they settle for doing everything they can to cause problems for firearms owners, and those wishing to become firearms owners. They want the "background check" to be more difficult than getting a security clearance from the Federal government, and they want all sales, to include the property you already own, to go through a dealer and be subject to those overly-intrusive background checks.


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Post by cyphertext » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:38 am

They are referring to the "gun show loophole"... sales between individuals do not require a background check. They are pushing for the universal background check, which would require all gun sales, even between private parties, to undergo the background check. Not sure how they plan to enforce that, but that is the push.

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Post by Liberty » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:05 am

flechero wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:36 am
striker55 wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:08 am
Caught a news sound bite of Bloomberg saying something about 85% of NRA members agree we need a national background check for gun purchases. I'm I to assume anyone can buy a gun legally in TX without that call to the federal government? Is that not a background check? And in other states guns can be bought without a check? Someone enlighten me, please.
Lies and deception. 85% of bloomberg staffers, who were paid to lie for the "study"may have agreed on background checks, but not 85% of anyone else. :nono:

Every dealer must run a background check on every single gun sale, whether at a gunshow, on-line or brick & mortar. An individual however, can purchase a gun through private sale from another individual. The law allows this, it's not a loophole. The big caveat is that it puts the onus on the seller to be sure the buyer is legal to buy... and why many people only sell to LTC or friends. Or go to a FFL for the transfer.

Criminals aren't buying their guns at gunshows or from you and I, they are stealing them and/or buying from their accomplices. So any further burden on the law abiding is only a burden to the law abiding and a precursor to registration and eventual confiscation.
Legally the onus on the seller is that we don't "knowingly" sell to a buyer that is unqualified to buy. Many of us hold to a higher standard and require more reassurance that the purchaser is qualified.
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Post by flechero » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:35 am

yep, I know it but didn't write as such... (but that drove the LTC or friends/known person comment) :tiphat:


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Post by pushpullpete » Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:54 am

cyphertext wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:38 am
They are referring to the "gun show loophole"... sales between individuals do not require a background check. They are pushing for the universal background check, which would require all gun sales, even between private parties, to undergo the background check. Not sure how they plan to enforce that, but that is the push.
The "gun show loophole" isn't. :banghead: It is a law that anti 2As don't like, SO, they gave it a scary sounding name and demonized
it because uninformed people (there are a quite a few) can be easily led by those willing to twist the truth and lie.

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Post by AndyC » Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:41 pm

cyphertext wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:38 am
Not sure how they plan to enforce that, but that is the push.
After they have that in place, that's when they say "Aha! To enforce it, we now need registration - for the chilluns..."
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Post by Chaparral » Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:23 pm

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politic ... nd-checks/

Well, the Texas Lieutenant Governor supports Bloomberg’s position on universal background checks.


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Post by Ruark » Sun Jan 05, 2020 3:19 pm

So notable that these rabid background check Nazis never mention the Grand-Canyon-sized holes in the NICS database....
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Post by mayor » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:04 pm

Chaparral wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:23 pm
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politic ... nd-checks/

Well, the Texas Lieutenant Governor supports Bloomberg’s position on universal background checks.
From the article: On Friday, he (i.e. Gov. Dan Patrick) issued an emphatic warning to fellow Republicans: "To survive and avert Democratic takeovers in Austin and Washington, they (Republican politicians) must act expeditiously on measures to reduce gun violence."

So, to prevent democrats from taking over Austin and Washington and gaining power, Republicans must become democrats?


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Post by Boxerrider » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:13 pm

While I see gun rights being a reason people vote republican, I don't see gun control causing many people to vote democrat. I'm pretty sure entitlements are the main bait. To me, Patrick's opinions about background checks and voter motivation are more evidence of politicians being isolated from the world in which most of us live and work.

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Post by Flightmare » Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:22 pm

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Ya know, I don't think I have EVER heard anyone from the NRA organization encourage violence against ANYONE. I have seen them advocate talking to their elected officials to vote for or against specific pieces of legislation. She is correct though that no training or permit is required in order to carry long guns in Texas. That has been the case since the state was created, it's not new. :txflag:
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Post by dhoobler » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:51 am

BloombergLetter.pdf
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I really like the line:
- and if you like your insurance, you'll be able to keep it.
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Post by Mel » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:26 am

dhoobler wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:51 am
BloombergLetter.pdf

I really like the line:
- and if you like your insurance, you'll be able to keep it.
"rlol"
Wait.....Haven't I heard that somewhere before?
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