Re: Five Rounds, Five Seconds, Five Yards, Five Inches
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:28 am
Good easy to set up drill. I will use it for my beginner's class.
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I shoot IDPA and USPSA. I've taken self defense classes, including force on force. I have thankfully never been involved in an encounter that required the use of a weapon.The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:43 am I have little or no experience in personal defense oriented shooting competitions, but it seems to me that the TWO things they don’t seem to account for are (1) your target is most likely mobile, and (2) he may be shooting at you....which places a whole new spin on things.
Like I said, all I know about shooting competition stages is what I’ve seen on YouTube videos, and that’s not very much. But from what little I can deduce, none of them prepare you for actually shooting a moving target while on the move yourself. I do believe that the training you get from competition is better than not training at all.
74novaman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:31 pm
What I believe competition does fantastically well is teach you how to do "stuff" under pressure. A timer and a bunch of people watching you is not "someone is trying to kill me" stress, but it is stress. Anyone who has shot more than one match likely experienced the same thing I did: the stress does not go away, but the amount of your mind it occupies and the effects it has on your ability to perform diminishes significantly the more you expose yourself to it. I've had a lot of repetitions under the most stress I can artificially create to 1) draw 2) get sights on target 3)make good hits 4) move with a loaded gun 5)handle malfunctions 6) figure out what to do next when things don't go to plan.
Competition is stress inoculation. Being able to think, move and work while stressed is pretty darn valuable for self defense.
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So no, competition won't teach you how to gunfight. But it will make you better at working and thinking under stress, which is why I believe competition is an incredibly valuable resource for anyone who carries a gun for self defense.
I should add that if you are running your street gear, it's a good test of your equipment too.Paladin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:44 pm74novaman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:31 pm
What I believe competition does fantastically well is teach you how to do "stuff" under pressure. A timer and a bunch of people watching you is not "someone is trying to kill me" stress, but it is stress. Anyone who has shot more than one match likely experienced the same thing I did: the stress does not go away, but the amount of your mind it occupies and the effects it has on your ability to perform diminishes significantly the more you expose yourself to it. I've had a lot of repetitions under the most stress I can artificially create to 1) draw 2) get sights on target 3)make good hits 4) move with a loaded gun 5)handle malfunctions 6) figure out what to do next when things don't go to plan.
Competition is stress inoculation. Being able to think, move and work while stressed is pretty darn valuable for self defense.
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So no, competition won't teach you how to gunfight. But it will make you better at working and thinking under stress, which is why I believe competition is an incredibly valuable resource for anyone who carries a gun for self defense.
There may be some truth to this. I remember my very first shooting competition, at a local indoor range. It was simple, just seeing who could shoot the smallest 5 shot group on a paper target. We all started firing at once, andcompetition won't teach you how to gunfight. But it will make you better at working and thinking under stress,