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Think this would've ended better if he was open carrying?
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:55 pm
by A-R
For those who say they'll refuse to identify while open carrying, do you think that will end better or worse for you than it did for this driver who failed to ID and started ignorantly spouting off about his knowledge of the law (granted, this is a legitimate traffic stop which is different than what may be some pedestrian OC stops) ...
http://www.leoaffairs.com/video/raw-vid ... w-smashed/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Do you REALLY know all the laws, or do you just think you know all the laws?
Just food for thought.
Re: Think this would've ended better if he was open carrying
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:08 pm
by The Annoyed Man
A-R wrote:For those who say they'll refuse to identify while open carrying, do you think that will end better or worse for you than it did for this driver who failed to ID and started ignorantly spouting off about his knowledge of the law (granted, this is a legitimate traffic stop which is different than what may be some pedestrian OC stops) ...
http://www.leoaffairs.com/video/raw-vid ... w-smashed/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Do you REALLY know all the laws, or do you just think you know all the laws?
Just food for thought.
He probably doesn't recognize the authority of the court to impose a fine, or the authority of a judge to issue a warrant either. People like that are totally assinine
Re: Think this would've ended better if he was open carrying
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:11 pm
by cb1000rider
It doesn't matter if you know them or don't know them. You're working with someone that has been granted the authority to enforce the laws as he/she knows them, not as you know them. And that someone is indemnified against making a "reasonable" mistake in terms of knowing the law.
To me, that means be polite, don't spout off, and even if you DO know better, you had better approach it in a an appealing matter...
The alternative is expensive one way or another. How much is being proven right worth to you?
Re: Think this would've ended better if he was open carrying
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:12 pm
by Javier730
That guy is a moron. If your gonna try that "I know the law" thing, at least know the law so you don't sound ignorant. That cop had more patience than I would of.
Re: Think this would've ended better if he was open carrying
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:12 pm
by baldeagle
If you're going to spout the law, it would be good to know
the law
This is the in the Transportation Code.
Sec. 545.352. PRIMA FACIE SPEED LIMITS (a) A speed in excess of the limits established by Subsection (b) or under another provision of this subchapter is prima facie evidence that the speed is not reasonable and prudent and that the speed is unlawful.
(b) Unless a special hazard exists that requires a slower speed for compliance with Section 545.351(b), the following speeds are lawful:
(1) 30 miles per hour in an urban district on a street other than an alley and 15 miles per hour in an alley;
(2) except as provided by Subdivision (4), 70 miles per hour on a highway numbered by this state or the United States outside an urban district, including a farm-to-market or ranch-to-market road;
(3) except as provided by Subdivision (4), 60 miles per hour on a highway that is outside an urban district and not a highway numbered by this state or the United States;
Re: Think this would've ended better if he was open carrying
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:28 pm
by Jim Beaux
If that cop worked in my city, I would look him up and buy him the biggest lunch he could want.
"what right, as a man, do you have to pull over another man"
Im hurting from laughing so hard.
Re: Think this would've ended better if he was open carrying
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:36 pm
by carlson1
Of course I wasn't there, but the driver slurred his words so bad it makes me wonder if he wasn't under the influence of alcohol, drugs, or both.
Re: Think this would've ended better if he was open carrying
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:16 am
by rbwhatever1
Crazy guy. I bet he would call 911 if he walked out of a store and found his vehicle stolen. Morons like this only want to enjoy the benefits a peaceful Society affords them and they don't want to help pay for it or follow the rules. Like others said that LEO had a lot more patience than I could have managed.
Would have been a better video if he pulled out his stun gun and gave him the shakes while he was in his diatribe about the law. Just buzz him lightly in mid sentence a few times to make him stutter....
Re: Think this would've ended better if he was open carrying
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:53 am
by jmra
I'm surprised he got the phone back to post the video.
Re: Think this would've ended better if he was open carrying
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:42 am
by VMI77
Not really fair posting a complete moron as an example. This guy was soliciting catastrophe.
That behavior is asking for trouble under any conceivable circumstances. It's pure stupidity to think you're going to "educate" a cop during a traffic stop even if you are within your rights and know what you're talking about. When you try to do it and you're a clueless moron you're likely to get a very big surprise.