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Re: Drones

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Post by crazy2medic » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:16 am

What would a focused beam of microwave energy do to a drone?
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Re: Drones

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Post by jrs_diesel » Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:39 am

crazy2medic wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:16 am
What would a focused beam of microwave energy do to a drone?
Depends. Microwave has a very short wavelength, and power diminishes quickly with distance (inverse square law) like any radio wave. You would need a powerful transmitter, a very tightly focused beam, and a way to aim it. What it would do if it works is overload the circuits with energy. That could damage the circuits in a way that would render the drone inoperable, or cause erratic operation.

Some drone are autonomous, most are radio controlled. Most of the RC ones are programmed to land upon loss of the RC signal so as not to fly into anyone/anything and cause damage. One could jam the RC signal more easily than using the microwave beam. Either method would very likely fall under unlicensed transmitters that the FCC regulates (i.e. it's illegal).
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Re: Drones

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Post by imkopaka » Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:55 am

jrs_diesel wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:39 am
crazy2medic wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:16 am
What would a focused beam of microwave energy do to a drone?
Depends. Microwave has a very short wavelength, and power diminishes quickly with distance (inverse square law) like any radio wave. You would need a powerful transmitter, a very tightly focused beam, and a way to aim it. What it would do if it works is overload the circuits with energy. That could damage the circuits in a way that would render the drone inoperable, or cause erratic operation.

Some drone are autonomous, most are radio controlled. Most of the RC ones are programmed to land upon loss of the RC signal so as not to fly into anyone/anything and cause damage. One could jam the RC signal more easily than the microwave beam. Either method would very likely fall under unlicensed transmitters that the FCC regulates (i.e. it's illegal).
Good lord, is ANYTHING legal in these United States anymore??
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Post by G.A. Heath » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:28 am

imkopaka wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:55 am
jrs_diesel wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:39 am
crazy2medic wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:16 am
What would a focused beam of microwave energy do to a drone?
Depends. Microwave has a very short wavelength, and power diminishes quickly with distance (inverse square law) like any radio wave. You would need a powerful transmitter, a very tightly focused beam, and a way to aim it. What it would do if it works is overload the circuits with energy. That could damage the circuits in a way that would render the drone inoperable, or cause erratic operation.

Some drone are autonomous, most are radio controlled. Most of the RC ones are programmed to land upon loss of the RC signal so as not to fly into anyone/anything and cause damage. One could jam the RC signal more easily than the microwave beam. Either method would very likely fall under unlicensed transmitters that the FCC regulates (i.e. it's illegal).
Good lord, is ANYTHING legal in these United States anymore??

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Post by striker55 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:42 am

One reason I didn't shoot at a dangerous dog in my front yard, didn't want a wayward bullet hitting a neighbor's house. Although I'm a good shot and chances are I wouldn't have missed, but the dog did stop from getting any closer.

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Post by AndyC » Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:54 am

Wonder what a green laser would do to innards of the camera...
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Post by nightmare69 » Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:16 am

As a drone hobbyists and Texas LEO, no you cannot shoot down a drone. You own the property not the airspace above it. Now if someone is flying 15ft above your backyard looking around your property, call the police. If I’m flying 200ft above I assure you my camera zoom isn’t like that of a military predator drone even though my DJI Mavic is a $1k drone.
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Post by Beiruty » Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:36 am

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Post by The Annoyed Man » Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:44 am

MadMonkey wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:00 pm
They'll be useful in the coming years if you take the time to learn about them :cool:
Actually... I’m very interested in learning. My next planned large purchase isn’t another gun—of which I have plenty—it’s a a drone. I’m thinking in terms of the latest Mavik Mini, which is supposed to have longer battery life than the larger models, while still offering decent video feed.

Have you ever considered offering drone flying lessons to the uninitiated first-time buyer? You might make some decent side -money that way. (I have copyrighted the idea, which of course I’ll license to you in exchange for free lessons. :mrgreen: )
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Post by nightmare69 » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:02 am

The Annoyed Man wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:44 am
MadMonkey wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:00 pm
They'll be useful in the coming years if you take the time to learn about them :cool:
Actually... I’m very interested in learning. My next planned large purchase isn’t another gun—of which I have plenty—it’s a a drone. I’m thinking in terms of the latest Mavik Mini, which is supposed to have longer battery life than the larger models, while still offering decent video feed.

Have you ever considered offering drone flying lessons to the uninitiated first-time buyer? You might make some decent side -money that way. (I have copyrighted the idea, which of course I’ll license to you in exchange for free lessons. :mrgreen: )
HolyStone makes a nice GPS drone for $300. It’s a great starter drone as you’re most likely going to crash it. If your really brave, get a DJI Mavic Pro 1st generation for around $700-$800. It has a beginner mode and a great camera. Look them up on YouTube as it’s a great place to research.
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Post by crazy2medic » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:20 pm

How about a drone with little machine guns and drone air to air missiles? Like Anti Drone, Drone
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Post by Beiruty » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:43 pm

crazy2medic wrote:
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How about a drone with little machine guns and drone air to air missiles? Like Anti Drone, Drone
Available, It is called "Coyte" from Raytheon's Missiles and Integrated Defense Systems. More or less, it a Kamikazi style warhead.
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Post by der Teufel » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:47 pm

crazy2medic wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:20 pm
How about a drone with little machine guns and drone air to air missiles? Like Anti Drone, Drone
Or maybe this —

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Re: Drones

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Post by MadMonkey » Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:30 am

The Annoyed Man wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:44 am
MadMonkey wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:00 pm
They'll be useful in the coming years if you take the time to learn about them :cool:
Actually... I’m very interested in learning. My next planned large purchase isn’t another gun—of which I have plenty—it’s a a drone. I’m thinking in terms of the latest Mavik Mini, which is supposed to have longer battery life than the larger models, while still offering decent video feed.

Have you ever considered offering drone flying lessons to the uninitiated first-time buyer? You might make some decent side -money that way. (I have copyrighted the idea, which of course I’ll license to you in exchange for free lessons. :mrgreen: )
I might actually have a Mavic Mini for you, but I need to do some troubleshooting to figure out why it's not getting the range it's supposed to... I took it to Nebraska to scout for prairie dog towns last month and it did pretty well for that application :mrgreen: I think wifi interference is the problem but I need to verify that it's not defective before I sell it.

The video quality is exceptional for being such a tiny thing! I'm not a great teacher but I can definitely show you how to fly one.
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Re: Drones

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Post by oohrah » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:01 am

nightmare69 wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:16 am
As a drone hobbyists and Texas LEO, no you cannot shoot down a drone. You own the property not the airspace above it. Now if someone is flying 15ft above your backyard looking around your property, call the police. If I’m flying 200ft above I assure you my camera zoom isn’t like that of a military predator drone even though my DJI Mavic is a $1k drone.
I know drones have to be registered with the FAA. Do you also have to have a Part 107 license, or is that just for commercial?
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