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Re: The Tactical Games coming to Texas

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:09 am
by Paladin
PriestTheRunner wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:33 pm
Thanks, I was trying to research that.

The games apparently only allow 5.56. I emailed to see if 300BLK is acceptable, and they replied no. I'm betting its to easily track that you are using proper ammo (no competitive loads). I'll have to build out a different AR to do this one... oh darn. :)

Looks fun.


edit: The no red dots or RMR on pistols rule may be a deal breaker though. Plenty of people use RMRs on carry guns these days and from what I can tell its pretty much unanimous across the spec ops community. Thats a weird rule. :/
I noticed that too about the pistol red dot/RMR rule. The have a lot of very sensible rules and that one stands out as bit of an odd rule. Shouldn't affect me as I don't have any RMR pistols (yet).

Re: The Tactical Games coming to Texas

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:16 pm
by Paladin
Elite Division Recommended Standards:
Physical Standards:
Minimum / Recommended / Time
1.5 mile run with Kit 12 min / 10.5 min
Push-ups 50 / 80-100 / 2 min
Grip/Leg Strength* 30 / 50-60 / 2 min
Power/Endurance* 5 min / 3.5 min
Pull-ups 6 / 10-15
Cannot come off the bar. Must be strict. No kipping

*Grip/Leg Strength: Use (2) 45lb dumbbells and do full squats from dumbbell touching the ground to full extension.
*Power/Endurance: Pickup and move a 50lb sandbag 50yards and do 10 burpees, repeat for a total of 4 runs and record total time. Time should fall within the 7-12 minute range.

Shooting Standards:

1. 300 point accuracy standard; to be done at 15 yards, 2 hand, strong hand, and support hand; 10 shots for each method. Shot with an NRA B8P bullseye target and can be done at any indoor range. Minimum passing score is 80% and recommended score is 90-95%
2. Fast Drill @ 7 yards: Minimum time hack is 7s and recommended standard is sub 6s

http://pistol-training.com/drills/the-fast

3. El Presidente Drill @7 yards: Recommended time envelope is between 7 and 9 seconds.



4. Walk Back Drill

Starting at 10 yards, shoot one round on steel.
Walk back 10 yards, and shoot another round on steel.
Repeat this process and walk back as far as you can go before missing repeatedly.
Normally, a shooter gets two shots at each distance. If the shooter misses both shots at a particular distance, the drill is finished and he has reached the limit at which his/her fundamentals break down.
An athlete competing in the Elite Division should be able to shoot fairly easily out to 50 yards and beyond. Great shooters can continue to hit steel out to well over 100 yards.

Elite athletes may encounter:

150# - 200# Sandbag carries and lifts
Multiple Rope Climbs in full kit, back to back
Obstacles such as wall climbs, low crawls, monkey bars, tunnel crawls, balance beams, etc.
Pistol Shots out to 50 yards on a C-Zone Steel Target
Off Axis shots with rifle
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I gotta practice!

Re: The Tactical Games coming to Texas

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:17 pm
by SpringerFan
Too broken to compete, but I will go watch, sounds like fun.

Re: The Tactical Games coming to Texas

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:19 pm
by Paladin
Since I have NRA targets handy I shot the course-of-fire for Shooting standard #1. Tactical Games didn't provide a time limit and rapid fire time-limit was easy with 2 hands. With right/left only I easily made the NRA timed fire requirements. My support hand only was definitely the weakest, but it didn't bring my score below the recommended zone.

Now those physical standards are gonna take a bit longer... :biggrinjester:

Re: The Tactical Games coming to Texas

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:34 am
by equin
Paladin wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:16 pm
Elite Division Recommended Standards:
Physical Standards:
Minimum / Recommended / Time
1.5 mile run with Kit 12 min / 10.5 min
Push-ups 50 / 80-100 / 2 min
Grip/Leg Strength* 30 / 50-60 / 2 min
Power/Endurance* 5 min / 3.5 min
Pull-ups 6 / 10-15
Cannot come off the bar. Must be strict. No kipping

*Grip/Leg Strength: Use (2) 45lb dumbbells and do full squats from dumbbell touching the ground to full extension.
*Power/Endurance: Pickup and move a 50lb sandbag 50yards and do 10 burpees, repeat for a total of 4 runs and record total time. Time should fall within the 7-12 minute range.

Shooting Standards:

1. 300 point accuracy standard; to be done at 15 yards, 2 hand, strong hand, and support hand; 10 shots for each method. Shot with an NRA B8P bullseye target and can be done at any indoor range. Minimum passing score is 80% and recommended score is 90-95%
2. Fast Drill @ 7 yards: Minimum time hack is 7s and recommended standard is sub 6s

http://pistol-training.com/drills/the-fast

3. El Presidente Drill @7 yards: Recommended time envelope is between 7 and 9 seconds.



4. Walk Back Drill

Starting at 10 yards, shoot one round on steel.
Walk back 10 yards, and shoot another round on steel.
Repeat this process and walk back as far as you can go before missing repeatedly.
Normally, a shooter gets two shots at each distance. If the shooter misses both shots at a particular distance, the drill is finished and he has reached the limit at which his/her fundamentals break down.
An athlete competing in the Elite Division should be able to shoot fairly easily out to 50 yards and beyond. Great shooters can continue to hit steel out to well over 100 yards.

Elite athletes may encounter:

150# - 200# Sandbag carries and lifts
Multiple Rope Climbs in full kit, back to back
Obstacles such as wall climbs, low crawls, monkey bars, tunnel crawls, balance beams, etc.
Pistol Shots out to 50 yards on a C-Zone Steel Target
Off Axis shots with rifle
--------------------------------------------------------------
I gotta practice!
The physical minimums are tough but doable with training. They’ll just be tougher for a guy like me in his 50’s. You mention those are “Elite Division” minimums, though. I tried looking it up but couldn’t find more info. Are there other divisions? If so, do you have a link to those and their physical minimums?

Re: The Tactical Games coming to Texas

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:33 am
by Paladin
equin wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:34 am
The physical minimums are tough but doable with training. They’ll just be tougher for a guy like me in his 50’s. You mention those are “Elite Division” minimums, though. I tried looking it up but couldn’t find more info. Are there other divisions? If so, do you have a link to those and their physical minimums?
Division Breakdown
Elite Division Standards
In order to help athletes better determine which Division to compete; we are releasing standards to self-test and classify yourself. We are only publishing Elite Division standards, as the other Divisions are clearly defined. If an athlete doesn’t fit into the Elite Standards, they default to the Intermediate Division. If an athlete is 45 years or older, they can (not mandatory) compete in the Master’s Division. Women’s Division is self-explanatory.
While I've got above average fitness, I'm not SPECOPS fit. I'm thinking the Intermediate or Masters is gonna be more my speed.. but the better you do on the physical and shooting standards, the better you're gonna score in your division.