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Stick_Shift wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:44 am I've determined that I am going to carry liability insurance. It just seems smart and prudent to do so, even if I live in a state that is relatively friendly to CHL holders. I am an NRA member, so I've heard about Carry Guard, and USCCA seems to have a pretty good option as well for $30/mo. Does anyone have either one and can you tell me the pros and cons of carrying either?

Thanks for all the advice I've gotten so far. This forum is a wealth of information.

Grayling813 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:59 am It appears the NRA Carry Guard is no longer insurance, just offers training and "resources." I haven't seen an official announcement from the NRA though a couple of articles I've run across said the insurance portion of Carry Guard is no longer being offered.

narcissist wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:52 pm Glad you brought this to everyone's attention, not a lot of people realize how much money In legal fees alone it will cost in a self defense murder case. 99% of the time you will be charged. Unless you wear a body cam at all times or the incident was captured on video somehow its your word and evidence against a D.A. that can and will twist the truth to which he/she has no boundaries. That conviction rate is all that matters to them in most cases.

mrvmax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:41 pm

narcissist wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:52 pm Glad you brought this to everyone's attention, not a lot of people realize how much money In legal fees alone it will cost in a self defense murder case. 99% of the time you will be charged. Unless you wear a body cam at all times or the incident was captured on video somehow its your word and evidence against a D.A. that can and will twist the truth to which he/she has no boundaries. That conviction rate is all that matters to them in most cases.

What’s your source that shows 99% of the time you will be charged?

Stick_Shift wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:53 pm

mrvmax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:41 pm

narcissist wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:52 pm Glad you brought this to everyone's attention, not a lot of people realize how much money In legal fees alone it will cost in a self defense murder case. 99% of the time you will be charged. Unless you wear a body cam at all times or the incident was captured on video somehow its your word and evidence against a D.A. that can and will twist the truth to which he/she has no boundaries. That conviction rate is all that matters to them in most cases.

What’s your source that shows 99% of the time you will be charged?

Yeah, I’m with you, I suspect it’s less than that somehow. But I’m not taking any chances.

Stick_Shift wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:53 pm

mrvmax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:41 pm

narcissist wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:52 pm Glad you brought this to everyone's attention, not a lot of people realize how much money In legal fees alone it will cost in a self defense murder case. 99% of the time you will be charged. Unless you wear a body cam at all times or the incident was captured on video somehow its your word and evidence against a D.A. that can and will twist the truth to which he/she has no boundaries. That conviction rate is all that matters to them in most cases.

What’s your source that shows 99% of the time you will be charged?

Yeah, I’m with you, I suspect it’s less than that somehow. But I’m not taking any chances.

narcissist wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:15 pm

Stick_Shift wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:53 pm

mrvmax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:41 pm

narcissist wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:52 pm Glad you brought this to everyone's attention, not a lot of people realize how much money In legal fees alone it will cost in a self defense murder case. 99% of the time you will be charged. Unless you wear a body cam at all times or the incident was captured on video somehow its your word and evidence against a D.A. that can and will twist the truth to which he/she has no boundaries. That conviction rate is all that matters to them in most cases.

What’s your source that shows 99% of the time you will be charged?

Yeah, I’m with you, I suspect it’s less than that somehow. But I’m not taking any chances.

Glad you got the point I was trying to make, good to see some people have common sense still.

oljames3 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:02 pm The product I think you are looking for is commonly misidentified as "insurance." It is more correctly characterized as pre-paid legal services. There are several good services available. They are so different that an apples-to-apples comparison is not readily possible. All of the carriers in my extended family are members of https://www.uslawshield.com/. Others for which I have hear good recommendations include: Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network, USCCA, Firearms Legal Protection. You will have to do your own due diligence to see which benefits matter most to you.

For all practical purposes, Carry Guard "insurance" is dead. Attorney Andrew Branca (Law of Self Defense) explains in this YouTube video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKGd6fruOA

In this YouTube video, John Lovell (Warrior Poet Society) interviews attorney Andrew Branca (Law of Self Defense) on the topic of self defense coverage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wilf_R5wlNQ