Do Not make a company aware of their non-compliant signs!

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Re: Do Not make a company aware of their non-compliant signs!

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Post by Abraham » Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:02 am

ScottDLS,

You may very well be right about the $10,000 a day fine, in fact I hope you are, but I thought it's a $1000.00 a day.

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Re: Do Not make a company aware of their non-compliant signs!

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Post by mojo84 » Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:12 am

Here are the threads about illegal posting of 30.06 signs by government entities and reporting them.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=188

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=77921

There is a distinct difference between the obligation and justification for reporting something that is illegal and something the is ill advised, unenforceable or not desirable.
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Re: Do Not make a company aware of their non-compliant signs!

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Post by glock27 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:37 pm

I don’t seem to fathom how someone can tell a store owner what they need to do to allow patrons not to carry. That’s some California logic.
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Re: Do Not make a company aware of their non-compliant signs!

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Post by jonmo1 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:44 pm

Why correct a non compliant sign?
I care neither for the business’ opinion of guns or intent of the invalid sign. I care about the law. If I can legally carry there, I will. My reason for carrying is for personal self defense. This reason is not impacted by the business owner at all.
If I can’t legally carry there, I’ll take my business elsewhere. Not for any political “I’m boycotting you” reason, I couldn’t care less about their opinion. I’ll go elsewhere simply because I don’t want to disarm myself. Unless I have no choice (nowhere else provides the goods or services I’m after). But that’s probably a rare occasion that I have yet to come across.


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Re: Do Not make a company aware of their non-compliant signs!

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Post by jonmo1 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:03 pm

There may be some validity in the idea that some businesses intentionally post invalid signs to appease their anti gun employees and customers. Knowing that licensees will know the law and still carry concealed, while the anti gunners will be blissfully comforted and none the wiser.

I think it’s fair to say that anyone who takes the time to read and understand the law, and can recognize the sign is invalid is likely a law abiding person and therefor is not a threat to their business.
Also, people who have read and understand the law probably also know that no sign can protect them from an armed criminal who doesn’t care about the stupid sign.

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Re: Do Not make a company aware of their non-compliant signs!

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Post by Grundy1133 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:32 pm

so much bickering going on in this topic.... i think someone should lock it... lol. the great thing about being alive is freedom of choice. either tell them or don't and move on and go about your day. :thumbs2:
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Re: Do Not make a company aware of their non-compliant signs!

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Post by NNT » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:34 pm

glock27 wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:37 pm
I don’t seem to fathom how someone can tell a store owner what they need to do to allow patrons not to carry. That’s some California logic.
California logic is not allowing to carry, spent many years there.

I agree private property owners have the right, and should have the right, to prohibit guns.

If I have the potential to get arrested, I want it very clear and consistent what I can get arrested for. Not some arbitrary hand drawn sign in a corner that might look like a gun buster to someone. Traffic signs are consistent, so should signs limiting the exercise of my constitutional rights.


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Re: Do Not make a company aware of their non-compliant signs!

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Post by NNT » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:35 pm

Grundy1133 wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:32 pm
so much bickering going on in this topic.... i think someone should lock it... lol. the great thing about being alive is freedom of choice. either tell them or don't and move on and go about your day. :thumbs2:
It was dead for 3 years...doubt anyone’s position has changed. :smash: :rules: :nono: :cheers2:

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Re: Do Not make a company aware of their non-compliant signs!

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Post by oljames3 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:36 pm

NNT wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:35 pm
Grundy1133 wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:32 pm
so much bickering going on in this topic.... i think someone should lock it... lol. the great thing about being alive is freedom of choice. either tell them or don't and move on and go about your day. :thumbs2:
It was dead for 3 years...doubt anyone’s position has changed. :smash: :rules: :nono: :cheers2:
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Re: Do Not make a company aware of their non-compliant signs!

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Post by Grundy1133 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:48 pm

NNT wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:35 pm
Grundy1133 wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:32 pm
so much bickering going on in this topic.... i think someone should lock it... lol. the great thing about being alive is freedom of choice. either tell them or don't and move on and go about your day. :thumbs2:
It was dead for 3 years...doubt anyone’s position has changed. :smash: :rules: :nono: :cheers2:
very true. i wasnt the one who resurrected it tho. i just read thru the pages and thought it'd be best if it was locked so that people wouldnt get heated again. i notice a few banned members who put in their 2 cents on the topic...
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Re: Do Not make a company aware of their non-compliant signs!

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Post by 03Lightningrocks » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:58 pm

Grundy1133 wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:48 pm
NNT wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:35 pm
Grundy1133 wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:32 pm
so much bickering going on in this topic.... i think someone should lock it... lol. the great thing about being alive is freedom of choice. either tell them or don't and move on and go about your day. :thumbs2:
It was dead for 3 years...doubt anyone’s position has changed. :smash: :rules: :nono: :cheers2:
very true. i wasnt the one who resurrected it tho. i just read thru the pages and thought it'd be best if it was locked so that people wouldnt get heated again. i notice a few banned members who put in their 2 cents on the topic...
LOL... this is one topic that has always been a bit controversial. I have my strong opinion as well. The thing that has changed is I am no longer going to give it. :coolgleamA: :biggrinjester:

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Re: Do Not make a company aware of their non-compliant signs!

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Post by Allons » Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:20 pm

glock27 wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:24 am
What good benefit do people see when they mention to a place of business that their sign is non compliant? More chances than not they are antis and ignorant of the law, so why would you want to inform them of that? Why ruin it for the rest of us by doing this? Just ignore it and carry on, telling them will do nothing other than make them aware of the law and that they need to post a correct sign to make it enforceable. Why would anyone want to do this? Dont give them any "ammunition" because of their ignorance. Just let them be. Dont ruin it for everyone! Just let them be ignorant.

Ive never understood the point. :confused5 :nono:
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Re: Do Not make a company aware of their non-compliant signs!

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Post by Abraham » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:12 am

Censoring a thread on the part of a few forum members isn't within their purview.

Suggesting a thread be locked because YOU/THEY don't approve/like it reminds of a group whose name starts with anti-...

Don't care for the thread content?

Don't read it.

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Re: Do Not make a company aware of their non-compliant signs!

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Post by 03Lightningrocks » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:29 am

Abraham wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:12 am
Censoring a thread on the part of a few forum members isn't within their purview.

Suggesting a thread be locked because YOU/THEY don't approve/like it reminds of a group whose name starts with anti-...

Don't care for the thread content?

Don't read it.

Sheesh!
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Re: Do Not make a company aware of their non-compliant signs!

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Post by warnmar10 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:48 am

Abraham wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:12 am
Censoring a thread on the part of a few forum members isn't within their purview.

Suggesting a thread be locked because YOU/THEY don't approve/like it reminds of a group whose name starts with anti-...

Don't care for the thread content?

Don't read it.

Sheesh!
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