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AZ: Police release graphic video of officer involved shooting of Texas man

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Post by bblhd672 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:57 pm

http://www.newsweek.com/police-release- ... ing-742241

I'm not sure what the jury who saw this video was thinking when they let the former cop go free. Hopefully he never works in any job again where he is allowed to carry a firearm.
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Post by RoyGBiv » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:11 pm

I'd guess the jury saw a guy that was the subject of a MWG call reach behind his back and under his shirt one too many times.

All kinds of fail on both sides of that encounter, but I didn't see it as clear cut as the OP.
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Post by flechero » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:42 pm

I've seen enough videos that if I am ever in a similar situation, I'm probably laying spread eagle and NOT moving, regardless of instructions. They can call for back up and take me into custody from the ground. Too many things can go wrong and none of them end well for the civilian.


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Post by dlh » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:56 pm

The article said the police officer was fired for violating department policy. What was the department policy he violated? I am not an LEO--maybe our police members know...
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Post by philip964 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:24 pm

dlh wrote:The article said the police officer was fired for violating department policy. What was the department policy he violated? I am not an LEO--maybe our police members know...
There is a lot of talk about this online. Another article said he was allowed to use his own personal AR-15 rifle.

That violated department policy. The reason for the firing. That maybe and the 73 million dollar lawsuit.
The jury was not told about the inscription as it was ruled prejudicial.

Imagine being hit with an AR-15 at close range 5 times, he was probably dead with the first round.

None of the other officers fired their weapons.

Apparently there is a test going on where you play the video and try and comply correctly with the officers demands without messing up. He was drunk by the way.


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Post by WTR » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:33 pm

Looks like an execution to me. The fact that there was an aquital makes me sick to my stomach.

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Post by Oldgringo » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:46 pm

This is getting a lot of play on the "Gateway to Airguns" forum. It seems the gun in the deceased's possession was a pellet gun that he used as a pest exterminator? I suspect the town is going to be out a lot of money......and rightly so.


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Post by philip964 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:42 pm

Oldgringo wrote:This is getting a lot of play on the "Gateway to Airguns" forum. It seems the gun in the deceased's possession was a pellet gun that he used as a pest exterminator? I suspect the town is going to be out a lot of money......and rightly so.
The company he worked for had a contract to kill all the birds that get inside Walmart's. He went from town to town, shooting birds with a pellet gun inside Walmarts.

Drunk with friends in his motel room plinking from his upper floor window, when some one saw the barrel sticking out the window and called the police.


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Post by OneGun » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:07 am

RoyGBiv wrote:I'd guess the jury saw a guy that was the subject of a MWG call reach behind his back and under his shirt one too many times.

All kinds of fail on both sides of that encounter, but I didn't see it as clear cut as the OP.
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Post by Beiruty » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:10 am

Bad shoot no matter what. The victim was compliant, scared and presented no threat. The jury is with no IQ whatsoever. The prosecutor should told them, what would you do if you are in the victim shoes.
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Post by Liberty » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:22 am

The cop was screaming, conflicting and confusing orders. The young man was scared and seemed to be doing his best to comply. The Officer kept saying he was gonna kill the boy for the slightest infraction.

Back in the day our drill sergeants would get in our faces and scream at us. We all figured out that it required a lot more concentration when the emotions ran high. I am not an LEO but I was left wondering right at the beginning why they didn't secure and cuff the guy as soon as he was face down. Instead the guy was hollering telling him to do all kinds of silly things. I know if it were me I would have had a hard time following his instructions and I wouldn't have had anything to drink. This guy was sounding like he was real anxious to kill himself a badguy.
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Post by mojo84 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:26 am

Seems like the propper procedure would have been to have the guy lay still face down and cover him while another officer or two approached and cuffed him. But what do I know. I'm just a mere citizen with no special training.
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Post by OlBill » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:01 am

mojo84 wrote:Seems like the propper procedure would have been to have the guy lay still face down and cover him while another officer or two approached and cuffed him. But what do I know. I'm just a mere citizen with no special training.
They were trying to get him away from the room so they could stack on it. Hotels are hard.

Las Vegas got that guy killed.

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Post by bblhd672 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:29 am

OlBill wrote:
mojo84 wrote:Seems like the propper procedure would have been to have the guy lay still face down and cover him while another officer or two approached and cuffed him. But what do I know. I'm just a mere citizen with no special training.
They were trying to get him away from the room so they could stack on it. Hotels are hard.

Las Vegas got that guy killed.
Bad training and a bad cop killed that guy in 2016.
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Post by mojo84 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:34 am

OlBill wrote:
mojo84 wrote:Seems like the propper procedure would have been to have the guy lay still face down and cover him while another officer or two approached and cuffed him. But what do I know. I'm just a mere citizen with no special training.
They were trying to get him away from the room so they could stack on it. Hotels are hard.

Las Vegas got that guy killed.
How did the Vegas incident have an effect on this situation that happened in January of 2016 which was long before Vegas?
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