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Re: Anti drone equipment

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Post by snorri » Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:25 pm

Drones are fun. OP should get one.

And if the perv damages OP's drone over OP's property, demand the DOJ prosecute the pervy felon.
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Re: Anti drone equipment

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Post by J.R.@A&M » Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:38 pm

One of the most frequently asked questions in Texas regarding drone use is, “Can I shoot down a drone over my property?”

The short answer, according to Lashmet, is it’s best not to.

“We don’t really know exactly how the law regarding trespass is going to work. We don’t know how drones are going to be treated,”
Lashmet said. “Don’t try to take the law into your own hands.”

There are civil claims like trespass and nuisance that can be brought against a drone that is flying over private property.

“There’s actually a statute in Texas that deals with drones and privacy rights. That statute says that drones can’t be used to conduct surveillance against another person or their property,” Lashmet said. “Under that statute, people could actually bring a lawsuit and seek to collect damages or there can be criminal prosecution for the drone user.”

In Texas, there are 21 lawful drone uses spelled out in statute.

The trouble with shooting down a drone is you never know if the drone is flying legally or not. So it’s best not to shoot them down.

“We want to be careful. I understand the importance of private property rights, and there are definitely some legal ways to protect that, but you don’t want to be the person who ends up in trouble for bringing a drone out of the sky and the next thing you know, you’re facing litigation or criminal charges,” Lashmet said. “Drones are regulated by the FAA, and what we don’t want is for somebody to be charged with shooting down an aircraft and the kind of repercussions that can come with that.”


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Re: Anti drone equipment

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Post by jmorris » Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:02 pm

Grumpy1993 wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:04 am
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The FAA regulates drones as aircraft and you should know that even threatening to intentionally damage or destroy an aircraft is a federal felony. Actually doing so is also a federal felony. The feds have yet to prosecute someone for doing so yet, however there is word that the FAA is working with the parties in the DOJ to change that number from zero.

My advice is contact your local LEOs and file a complaint citing Texas Government Code 423. The same statute also gives you Civil remedies as well and I am certain there is at least one attorney in Texas willing to establish themselves as the "Drone Lawyer" or some such.

Edit to add: Location is important too, if you live near an airport determine what class airspace you are in and you might find the remote pilot is flying illegally, especially if they are operating as a hobbyist. Drone regulations are very fluid right now, especially for hobbyist pilots.

For the record I am an FAA part 107 certified remote pilot.
First, as suggested above, you should contact your local LEOs and file a complaint citing Texas Government Code 423.

Second, every time your wife sees the drone, she should call 911 to report a "Peeping Tom" spying on her sunbathing inside her privacy fence. Texas Penal Code § 21.17

Third, if "FAA regulates drones as aircraft" then you should contact the FAA whenever your neighbor flies his aircraft within 500 feet of you, your wife, or your home. Tell them an aircraft is not maintaining safe distance and you want to report a violation of Federal Aviation Regulation § 91.119, to wit: "the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure"
So I asked the drone folks at the FAA. FAR 91.119 does not apply because of rules in 14 CFR Part 107. I'm a recreational drone pilot and I find that sometimes normal aircraft rules apply and sometimes drone rules apply. Such as the operator being referred to as Pilot in Command or if fired upon, and in others as a unique thing, such as the above.

For a recreational flyer, there is a 400' above ground level ceiling[1] and the drone must stay within visual range. So those rules alone say 91.119 is not going to apply.

[1] Flying over a building the 400' is added to the building height.
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Re: Anti drone equipment

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Post by Grumpy1993 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:15 pm

If you're saying a drone isn't always an aircraft when it comes to them following the rules, maybe a drone isn't always an aircraft when it comes to others following the rules. I guess we'll have to wait and see what the courts say about it.

But I do like the idea of sailor2000 getting his own drone and flying it over his own property. :evil2:
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Post by G.A. Heath » Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:21 pm

A drone is an aircraft regulated under part 107 of the FAA rules, not part 91.
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Re: Anti drone equipment

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Post by Grumpy1993 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:31 pm

Grumpy1993 wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:04 am
Second, every time your wife sees the drone, she should call 911 to report a "Peeping Tom" spying on her sunbathing inside her privacy fence. Texas Penal Code § 21.17
Forgot to mention, but if you have young relatives who use your pool, the Peeping Tom is committing "a state jail felony if the victim was a child younger than 14 years of age"

Most peace officers in Texas are willing to protect underage girls from sexual predators, so that's one way to get more traction, if needed.
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Re: Anti drone equipment

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Post by sailor2000 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:53 pm

Follow up. We spoke to an adult in the house and the drone has not reappeared.
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Post by The Annoyed Man » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:48 pm

Grayling813 wrote:
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There was an interesting video presentation I saw a while back by a network security guy whose neighbor's kid was using his drone camera to look into windows of houses. He found open ports on the network that the drone/controller used, was able to connect to the drone and take control of it. He downloaded all of the pictures/videos on the camera and confronted the parents of the kid with it.
I love that. It’s brilliant. :thumbs2:
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Post by ScottDLS » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:50 am

:roll: Squawk squawk...rule #4, rule #4, squawk....
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Post by ScottDLS » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:53 am

The Annoyed Man wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:48 pm
Grayling813 wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:53 pm
There was an interesting video presentation I saw a while back by a network security guy whose neighbor's kid was using his drone camera to look into windows of houses. He found open ports on the network that the drone/controller used, was able to connect to the drone and take control of it. He downloaded all of the pictures/videos on the camera and confronted the parents of the kid with it.
I love that. It’s brilliant. :thumbs2:
Yes but you see by connecting to the drone he was breaking federal wiretap laws and causing damage to an aircraft, both federal felonies. :biggrinjester:
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Re: Anti drone equipment

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Post by The Annoyed Man » Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:22 am

ScottDLS wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:53 am
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:48 pm
Grayling813 wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:53 pm
There was an interesting video presentation I saw a while back by a network security guy whose neighbor's kid was using his drone camera to look into windows of houses. He found open ports on the network that the drone/controller used, was able to connect to the drone and take control of it. He downloaded all of the pictures/videos on the camera and confronted the parents of the kid with it.
I love that. It’s brilliant. :thumbs2:
Yes but you see by connecting to the drone he was breaking federal wiretap laws and causing damage to an aircraft, both federal felonies. :biggrinjester:
And if he’s that good of a hacker, he’s not worried about getting caught. :mrgreen:
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Re: Anti drone equipment

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Post by Interblog » Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:06 am

sailor2000 wrote:
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.... Is the use of one of these drone catchers illegal in Texas? ...I have spoken to the little perv but to no effect. Easy shot with a .410 but I hear that is frowned upon. I bet I could get it with a pellet rifle. ....
Bolas = a lot cheaper and easier. Due to the legal reasons cited in this thread, I'm not advocating for the use of that device or any other device - I'm just saying that if someone was GOING to bring down a drone, that mechanical DIY device shown in the video is about ten thousand times more elaborate and expensive than it would need to be to get the job done.

A drone that crashed in someone's back yard may have simply crashed for whatever reason, perhaps unskillful operation on the part of the pilot. If its memory card was wiped out in the process, then it might not show the reason why it crashed.


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Re: Anti drone equipment

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Post by Malawler » Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:30 am

If the drone gets close enough, you could try one of those water hose nozzles that squirts far.

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Re: Anti drone equipment

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Post by Flightmare » Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:35 am

Malawler wrote:
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If the drone gets close enough, you could try one of those water hose nozzles that squirts far.
Interesting idea. Setup an oscillating sprinkler on a remote. It flies too low, it gets wet.
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Post by loktite » Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:41 am

Flightmare wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:35 am
Interesting idea. Setup an oscillating sprinkler on a remote. It flies too low, it gets wet.
you mean like a souped up version of this?

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