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The war with Iran

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:21 pm
by philip964
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/12 ... ran-Mosque

Iran raises red flag over Jamkaran Mosque.

http://news.trust.org/item/20200104104819-ohs52

Iran will punish Americans wherever they are.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq ... SKBN1Z30IC

Two rockets land inside Iraq airbase where US troops housed.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020 ... g-war-iran

All about Impeachment. Wag the Dog.

https://www.breitbart.com/national-secu ... soleimani/

UN - US violated international law by killing Soleimani says “Agnes Callamard, the U.N. special rapporteur on extrajudicial killing, said on Thursday night that the U.S. drone strike that killed Iranian terrorist mastermind Gen. Qasem Soleimani was a violation of international law.”

Interesting that a Iranian General was inside bitter enemy, Iraq. A country that the US Congress had given approval to go to war with. (And not revoked?) Odd that he is being buried there.

https://news.yahoo.com/pulling-trigger- ... 44020.html

Pulling the trigger on a target who didn’t hide.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ted-cr ... ni-mission

Ted Cruz Senate Resolution praising Soleimani mission. Daring Dems to oppose.

https://politicodailynews.com/irans-un- ... aring-war/

Iran’s UN Ambassador says killing Soleimani same as declaring war.

White House says it plans to inform congress as required by the War Powers Act.

Re: The war with Iran

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:58 pm
by philip964
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 812727001/

Bernie Sanders and Ro Khanna (?) have Bill to block funding for Iran action.

Re: The war with Iran

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:05 pm
by Alf
Does this mean the United States won't complain when Iran targets US political leaders in response?

Re: The war with Iran

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:25 pm
by crazy2medic
Alf wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:05 pm Does this mean the United States won't complain when Iran targets US political leaders in response?
Complain? Who knows, escalate probably! U.S. can bring far more varied and powerful weapons than Iran can! They should quit while they can!

Re: The war with Iran

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:58 pm
by philip964
https://www.tmz.com/2020/01/04/colin-ka ... soleimani/

It wouldn’t be a real war without Colin Kaepernick adding his two cents.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world- ... k-21216337

Iranian support group launches a cyber attack against a US government website.

Re: The war with Iran

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:24 pm
by ELB
Iran has been at war with US for 40 years, with a short time out just ling enough to let Obama ship them pallets of cash ti build bigger bombs with.

There’s nothing they are going to do now they they wouldn’t have done otherwise. They will however be a little less bold about parading their leaders around in Iraq.

Re: The war with Iran

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:53 pm
by iratollah
I doubt this is going to blow up the way alarmists are saying, but they gotta say so you stay tuned to their channel or website for latest breaking.
HERE'S WHY:
We've been at war (undeclared) with Iran (declared war with US) since 1979, so there's that for starters.
We sent Saddam from a life of opulence into a rat hole from where we yanked him out and strung him up on global TV. And unlike the last administration that sent 100s of millions of dollars to Iran as a parting gift and peace gesture, current administration sent Iran a message of Soleimani in pieces. Their current leaders aren't ready to be glorified as martyrs by an America that has the ability and will to seriously mess them up.
Iran already has weekly Death to America (and Israel) rallies. So what's different this week?
Soleimani commanded the many Iranian proxies in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Gaza, and in Africa. Khamanei is a bit too distracted now trying to keep that together to start a full blown revenge war.
Iran can't attack US without attacking Israel as well as a face saving honorific and they're not ready to deal with an angry IDF air force.
Iranian people hated Soleimani but didn't dare speak out. The regime won't risk worsening an already agitated and rioting populace to avenge a hated leadership figure.

What will change? Cyberwar is going to ramp up. US can give back much more than we get, but in a lesser developed country like Iran there's not as much pain inflicted to the populace by grid attacks.
Iran could try to agitate world financial and oil markets by a Straits of Hormuz gambit and could be successful blackmailing an already cowering EU into putting pressure on US. Problem with that strategy is POTUS don't give no nevermind to what the EU wants.
Yes, Iran will continue to be an ankle biter with terrorist attacks against US and allied assets, including SA. They may get more ambitious with a one-off terrorist attack to show they're to be taken seriously, but their leadership knows escalating much beyond could be a regime ending move...and their regime isn't supposed to end until the arrival of the 12th Mahdi.

So the immediate casualty is to credibility of Americans that are suddenly sympathetic to an Iranian regime that wants all of us dead. American apologists to world and Iran look sort of silly right now.

Re: The war with Iran

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:15 am
by Diesel42
FWIW, Mr. Trump is channeling Thomas Jefferson.
God bless him, force is the language of Islam.

Re: The war with Iran

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:23 pm
by philip964
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -s-killing

Iraq’s parliament votes to remove US forces from Iraq.

Kurds and Sunnis didn’t show up for vote. I thought Kurds and Sunnis far outnumbered Shias in Iraq. They somehow don’t outnumber Shias in parliament. Odd?

Re: The war with Iran

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:28 pm
by Chaparral
Saddam Hussein led a minority Sunni government. The majority if Iraqi’s are Shia. It seems that Iran has essentially taken, or is on the verge of taking, control of the Iraqi government.

Re: The war with Iran

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:49 pm
by Chaparral
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran ... SKBN1Z40Q3

Iran ignores limits on uranium enrichment. Forges ahead on weapons grade uranium production.

Re: The war with Iran

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:47 pm
by Liberty
Alf wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:05 pm Does this mean the United States won't complain when Iran targets US political leaders in response?
I won't mind much, we have too many and too many of them are more of a threat to American freedoms and way of life than a few Islamic terrorists. The only problem is the Islamist would probably go after the very few that offer us a ray of hope.

Re: The war with Iran

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:56 pm
by Grayling813
Oh good, let’s get another war started spilling Americans’ blood and spending taxpayers’ money. Has not 20 years, thousands of lives lost, 10’s of thousands wounded and 2 trillion dollars spent taught the war hawks anything?