The Marshal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:18 pm
You are welcome to shoot mine again when we go to the Range, C-Dub.
Personally, I prefer the SCAR over the AR platform, and the 17S will be the last gun in the Safe if it came to that.
C-dub wrote: ↑Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:35 pm
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You are welcome to shoot mine again when we go to the Range, C-Dub.
Personally, I prefer the SCAR over the AR platform, and the 17S will be the last gun in the Safe if it came to that.
Hey there Bud.
I’m pretty sure I have shot yours before. Have read about the 20S?
BTW, my daughter and I are planning to head out to the club on Thanksgiving day. If you’re interested I’ll let you know for sure in s few days.
If I didn’t already own a 17S, I would wonder about the 20S, but I’m not sure if it is worth the extra $1500 or so it would cost above the price of the 17S. Each has its advantages, and here is a rough comparison.
Accuracy: I’m sure the 20S is probably more accurate, and with its longer barrel can probably develop a little more velocity/range. Balanced against that, the 17S is
crazy accurate for a battle rifle. The very first time I took mine to a range, after zeroing, it put a string of 10 rounds into 3/4” at 100 yards, with commercially
remanufactured 168 grain match. I have a bolt action in the same caliber that won’t do that. A friend of mine (ex MARSOC sniper) was shooting 1 MOA with his 17S at 800 yards at ETTS range, using bulk 150 grain FMJ. If you were trying to get out to 1000 yards, the 20S would probably be the better rifle, but for anything out to 800 yards (which is a LONG dang distance if you’ve never done it before), the 17S is up to the tax.
Trigger: I don’t know if the 20S comes with the same trigger as the 17S, but the OEM 17S trigger was a horrible and gritty 8 lb. I replaced mine with a drop in 3.5 lb Timney, at a cost of about $340. If you’re considering the 20S, I would verify the trigger pull before spending the money, if you’re going to have to drop another $340 to make the rifle shootable at distance, as that might help you to choose between the two rifles. The Timney is crisp and light with a short reset, and the cost is well worth the improvement. Alternatively, Geissele also makes a trigger for the SCAR with is a vast improvement.
Weight: The extra 4” of barrel and that chassis on the 20S comes with a weight penalty. The 17S is an honest 8 lb gun sans optic or loaded magazine. FN claims the 20S weighs 11.2 lbs with no optics and an empty magazine. Since they claim 8 lbs for the 17S and that’s what it actually weighs, the 11.2 lbs is probably accurate. If you’re planning on toting the gun around, that matters.
Sights/Optics: I don’t know what iron sights come on the 20S, if any, but the OEM iron sights on the 17S are pretty decent. You’ll probably want to scope either rifle. Right now, I have a 4-14x50mm Viper PST FFP on my 17S, and I can tell you that is too much scope for the rifle. Knowing what I know now, I would replace that with a 2-10x34mm Viper PST FFP if I hadn’t already spent the money. Alternatively, it lends itself well to a fixed power ACOG type of optic. Whatever you pick for an optic, regardless of which rifle you get, buy a scope that is sturdy and can take a beating. While the 5.56mm 16S is a pussycat, the 17S is known to beat scopes to death. I have
not noticed anything bad happening to my Viper PST, but scope issues are a problem that gets talked about on the Interwebs .... so it must be true, right? But my main reason for regretting the scope I put on my SCAR is its size, which is what I meant by “too much” scope. A relatively light carbine length weapon needs a light scope.
So, as with all rifles, whether you buy the 17s or the 20s should depend on how you think you’ll use it. If you’re happy with an 800 yard rifle, the 17S will make you happy. If you need more range than that, the 20S is the one for you. Walking around, pick the 17. Benchresting, pick the 20. Personally, I am not convinced that the 20S is worth the extra money.....but that’s just ME.