3 D Printed guns in the news

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Post by Pawpaw » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:18 pm

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I was flipping thru channels on the radio in the car and heard 3D printed gun and stopped flipping and listened.

It was NPR. The were going ape with the AG of Pennsylvania over 3D printed guns.

Apparently it’s all Texas’s fault as some Texas Company is maybe the one trying to distribute the plans on line.

To NPR’s credit they brought up the lack of longevity of the gun, small capacity and some other faults in a question to the A G and he answered a different question about how he was protecting 2A rights while trying to shut down this avenue for felons to illegally make a gun.

Made it all sound as if this was the number one problem facing his state.
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Post by TexasJohnBoy » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:40 pm

In case anyone doesn't get the gravity of this situation:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/31/us/p ... trump.html
Mr. Blumenthal and Mr. Markey were among a group of Democrats who announced they were introducing two separate bills related to 3-D guns: one that would bar the manufacture and sale of any untraceable weapon, and another that would prohibit the online publication of blueprints for the plastic guns.
...80% lowers...

And, this isn't only a 2nd amendment issue. This is a censorship issue, a 1st amendment issue. If they can block the release of these files, who's to say they can't start blocking other types of files? Fahrenheit 451 kind of stuff.

Also, one federal judge today ruled to allow defcad.org to stay up, while another ruled it had to be taken down. So on day 1, we have a disagreement in the court system.
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Post by Allons » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:48 pm

It's amazing, how the states with the strictest gun laws are the ones complaining. Criminals already have enough cheap guns in those states they can get their hands on. I don't think they will be wasting money on this.
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Post by Deltaboy » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:00 pm

Tempest in a Teapot , The start up cost you could buy a small arsenal! :tiphat:
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Post by bblhd672 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:15 pm

TexasJohnBoy wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:40 pm
In case anyone doesn't get the gravity of this situation:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/31/us/p ... trump.html
Mr. Blumenthal and Mr. Markey were among a group of Democrats who announced they were introducing two separate bills related to 3-D guns: one that would bar the manufacture and sale of any untraceable weapon, and another that would prohibit the online publication of blueprints for the plastic guns.
...80% lowers...

And, this isn't only a 2nd amendment issue. This is a censorship issue, a 1st amendment issue. If they can block the release of these files, who's to say they can't start blocking other types of files? Fahrenheit 451 kind of stuff.

Also, one federal judge today ruled to allow defcad.org to stay up, while another ruled it had to be taken down. So on day 1, we have a disagreement in the court system.
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Post by bbhack » Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:34 pm

The files in question are already in the wild. This is all for show.
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Post by bbhack » Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:36 pm

Things like this are useful to make grown men in suits with important titles scream and cry. Remember them.
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Post by warnmar10 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:54 am

TreyHouston wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:40 am
Computer, 3D printer, material and program would cost 1000’s. Buying a gun off the street thats serial number has been filed off is less than $100.
What do you think criminals will use :confused5
Actually you can get this done for 100's not 1000's but point taken.


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Post by Richbirdhunter » Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:18 am

I would be more worried about using a 3-D printer to make untraceable plastic straws.
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Post by Tex1961 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:47 am

Chicken Little Syndrome.

But beyond that... and as many have already alluded to, your typical "hood rat" isn't going to be getting ahold of these anytime soon. To get setup your going to need at least.

1. Computer
2. 3d printer decent enough to handle the tolerances needed.
3. Material knowledge on which filament you should use
4. Computer / graphic software / 3d printer software knowledge

What typical bad guy is going to invest that kind of money and learning curve when (again as others have said) they can go to the streets and pick up a real gun for a couple hundred bucks...

And, unless they utilize a more specialized 3d printer that accepts some pretty expensive and exotic filament, that gun is going to be good for what. about 1 maybe 2 shots before it blows up in their faces... I would rather a bad guy come at me with a plastic gun that has a better chance at hurting them than me than a bad guy with a regular manufactured handgun...

I can't wait for the fully semi-automatic single shot assault rifle pistol version to come out... :banghead:
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Post by Ruark » Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:23 am

Exactly. I can't imagine the average semi-literate high school dropout street punk setting up thousands of dollars of hardware and printing a plastic gun that will fire one shot and blow up in your face. Maybe it'll fire a .22 short, sort of like a starter's pistol.

The 3d printers that can do metal (aluminum) START at over $10,000 for the printer alone. As always, this is just politicians posing for the cameras and making themselves look brave, painting pictures of somebody jerking a ready-to-fire AR15 out of his printer and going out and committing a mass murder. :roll:
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Post by BBYC » Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:34 pm

Why spend all that money to 3D print a polymer AR lower when you can buy an 80% polymer lower for $20 and finish it with a Dremel, or hand tools if you're bored.

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Re: 3 D Printed guns in the news

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Post by rotor » Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:56 pm

TexasJohnBoy wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:40 pm
In case anyone doesn't get the gravity of this situation:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/31/us/p ... trump.html
Mr. Blumenthal and Mr. Markey were among a group of Democrats who announced they were introducing two separate bills related to 3-D guns: one that would bar the manufacture and sale of any untraceable weapon, and another that would prohibit the online publication of blueprints for the plastic guns.
...80% lowers...

And, this isn't only a 2nd amendment issue. This is a censorship issue, a 1st amendment issue. If they can block the release of these files, who's to say they can't start blocking other types of files? Fahrenheit 451 kind of stuff.

Also, one federal judge today ruled to allow defcad.org to stay up, while another ruled it had to be taken down. So on day 1, we have a disagreement in the court system.
At least someone realizes that this is not a gun issue. Can an individual release their intellectual property to the masses or does the government have the right to censor it? It's not about plastic guns. It's freedom of speech.


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Re: 3 D Printed guns in the news

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Post by philip964 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:08 pm

https://gunfreezone.net/index.php/2018/ ... /#comments

So I saw the 3D gun in yellow. It’s so much prettier in yellow than the UN blue.

Trying to find it Huffington Post led me indirectly here where you can download guns or viruses.

It said there are plans for AR 15’s AK47 or their one shot .380.

So the 3D gun is not only one shot but is a .380.

Didn’t the Allies drop thousands of one shot guns into France? Weren’t they .45’s at least?

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