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Texas soldier faces legal battle over gun in hospitial
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:13 am
by Slipknot
Short version is that a soldier brought a concealed handgun to a
Killeen hospitial that was not posted as per 30.06. He got arrested anyway. The trial is scheduled for Dec 3.
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Re: Texas soldier faces legal battle over gun in hospitial
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:26 am
by WildBill
Do you have more details?
Some of the comments on the story refer to alcohol, a 30.06 sign and the hospital being on Federal property.
Re: Texas soldier faces legal battle over gun in hospital
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:34 am
by E.Marquez
I've been looking for more info on this since it popped on my Serious Incident Report. But there is noting official coming from the Unit, Soldier, or PAO.
Have to just wait till the trial happens I guess.
Re: Texas soldier faces legal battle over gun in hospitial
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:54 pm
by Heartland Patriot
Well, I'm interested in reading the rest of that story but I'm not subscribing to get it. Either there WAS or there WAS NOT a 30.06 sign. IF the soldier was intoxicated that is a separate issue. I await the outcome, hopefully there will be an update to this unlike so many stories that fall through the cracks.
Re: Texas soldier faces legal battle over gun in hospitial
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 1:01 pm
by donkey
Heartland Patriot wrote:Well, I'm interested in reading the rest of that story but I'm not subscribing to get it. Either there WAS or there WAS NOT a 30.06 sign. IF the soldier was intoxicated that is a separate issue. I await the outcome, hopefully there will be an update to this unlike so many stories that fall through the cracks.
I saw the entire article posted on another forum. According to the soldier's lawyer are no 30.06 signs posted.
Re: Texas soldier faces legal battle over gun in hospitial
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 2:22 pm
by barstoolguru
this is a copy and paste from another forum and I can't find where they got the info but it seems to fall in line with the story
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http://tdtnews.com/index/news/show/9320 ... o+hospital" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
BELTON — A 29-year-old Fort Hood soldier, a nine-year veteran with three deployments to Iraq under his belt, is refusing what most would consider a generous misdemeanor plea offer made after he was charged for carrying his personal gun into Metroplex Hospital in
Killeen.
Re: Texas soldier faces legal battle over gun in hospitial
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 2:35 pm
by WildBill
Quote from 24hourcampfire website wrote:He knew certain hospitals in the state ban private gun owners, concealed weapons permits or not, from bringing guns inside the facilities. He said he checked the entrances of Metroplex for signs warning against carrying his gun inside, and, finding none, entered.
“There are still no signs,” said Sampson’s attorney Kurt Glass, a retired Army veteran.
The police officer reported smelling alcohol on Sampson’s breath, but Sampson said a test to determine blood-alcohol content was never administered.
Glass said Sampson rejected a plea offer that would have required him to pay a $100 fine and court costs and forfeit his weapon.
On Wednesday, the sides were at an impasse with a trial date set for Monday when Kalafut amended the charge to include a designation that alleges Sampson was intoxicated while in the hospital with his gun, a clear violation of the concealed handgun law.
It sounds like the DA is going to "Plan B".
Re: Texas soldier faces legal battle over gun in hospitial
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 2:50 pm
by AEA
I hope Charles is handling this!
Re: Texas soldier faces legal battle over gun in hospitial
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 2:51 pm
by RPB
In addition to restoring his property, I hope the hospital and city pay him buckets and buckets full of money to compensate for the loss of position at his work, and for other damages for violating his civil rights.
Re: Texas soldier faces legal battle over gun in hospitial
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:03 pm
by WildBill
RPB wrote:In addition to restoring his property, I hope the hospital and city pay him buckets and buckets full of money to compensate for the loss of position at his work, and for other damages for violating his civil rights.
From what I have read, the hospital had nothing to do with arresting the man.
Re: Texas soldier faces legal battle over gun in hospitial
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:15 pm
by Slowplay
BELTON — A 29-year-old Fort Hood soldier, a nine-year veteran with three deployments to Iraq under his belt, is refusing what most would consider a generous misdemeanor plea offer made after he was charged for carrying his personal gun into Metroplex Hospital in Killeen.
Who is this "most" that would consider paying the $100 fine, the court costs, and then forfeiting your Springfield a "generous" plea deal? I guess if they keep piling charges and tactics that run up the legal bill to fight, he'll end up worse off for not taking the plea...which is the way they want it, apparently.
Re: Texas soldier faces legal battle over gun in hospitial
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:33 pm
by tbrown
WildBill wrote:RPB wrote:In addition to restoring his property, I hope the hospital and city pay him buckets and buckets full of money to compensate for the loss of position at his work, and for other damages for violating his civil rights.
From what I have read, the hospital had nothing to do with arresting the man.
In a society that cared about justice, bad cops wouldn't be able to hide behind the skirts of the taxpayers. They would be held personally responsible for the things they do like adults.
Re: Texas soldier faces legal battle over gun in hospitial
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:39 pm
by tomtexan
As always, there may be more to the story than what we know. OTOH, from what I am reading they don't seem to have a case. According to Sampson, no alcohol test was administered to him. There are supposedly no 30.06 signs, which seems to be confirmed by his lawyer. What jury can convict him of being intoxicated solely on the testimony of the officer's opinion? Did I miss something somewhere?
Re: Texas soldier faces legal battle over gun in hospitial
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:42 pm
by snatchel
Side note that I'm not sure anyone has considered--and I didn't see it mentioned. Legal assistance is free if you are military and use military lawyers. That said, if I were him and I was innocent, I would fight the case too. I'd have nothing to lose monetarily other than what would be lost anyway (the TRP). He can afford to ride it out.
I hope he is innocent. I hope they hammer the arresting officer and use this as an opportunity to familiarize the rest of the state with Concealed Handgun Laws. And if this guy wins... legal precedence. I'm ok with that too.
Re: Texas soldier faces legal battle over gun in hospitial
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:50 pm
by WildBill
snatchel wrote:Side note that I'm not sure anyone has considered--and I didn't see it mentioned. Legal assistance is free if you are military and use military lawyers. That said, if I were him and I was innocent, I would fight the case too. I'd have nothing to lose monetarily other than what would be lost anyway (the TRP). He can afford to ride it out.
He is not using a military lawyer.