Pattern-size at station 8 Skeet

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Re: Pattern-size at station 8 Skeet

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Pawpaw wrote:Oh gee, I don't know.

What do you guys think? Can my punk RottenApple kid come along? Maybe he won't pester us grownups too much. :biggrinjester:
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RottenApple wrote:
Pawpaw wrote:Oh gee, I don't know.

What do you guys think? Can my punk RottenApple kid come along? Maybe he won't pester us grownups too much. :biggrinjester:
Just remember one thing, Old Man.... I get to pick your nursing home when get even more senile than you already are! :evil2:
I ain't worried. I've got your sister here to look after me. She likes me.

At least she says she does... :headscratch
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This is shaping up to be a fun day.
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Re: Pattern-size at station 8 Skeet

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AndyC wrote:Because station 8 is a very close target - especially when overhead - I've been curious for a while as to just how big the pattern is of a skeet-choked shotgun at that distance. Obviously, this would be to try and determine "Ok, how much room for error do I actually have?"

I used some basic geometry to determine that the distance when the clay is overhead is about 8 yards - from the ground. Add a person with a shotgun and we can call it about 5 yards from gun-muzzle to the bird. 45 miles an hour at only 5 yards away - pretty darned challenging.

I finally put gun to cardboard at 5 yards and also 8 yards (the latter to presume a shot taken a little bit quicker and hence a bit more distance) - here's what I found using a 12 ga Skeet choke:

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That cardboard was taken from a clay-pigeon crate, so the circles are actual size - about a 4" diameter.

Bottom line seems to be - if you can shoot the bird even a fraction of a second quicker, the far wider your pattern will be. Directly overhead doesn't leave much room for error - as we know - but I had to see for myself exactly how much room there was.
Thank you for posting this, especially the picture. Those of us who keep a shotgun for home defense should take the time to do a similar exercise with our HD shotty and ammo at room and hallway distances.
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Pawpaw wrote:I ain't worried. I've got your sister here to look after me. She likes me.

At least she says she does... :headscratch
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AndyC wrote:
gringo pistolero wrote:Thank you for posting this, especially the picture. Those of us who keep a shotgun for home defense should take the time to do a similar exercise with our HD shotty and ammo at room and hallway distances.
Did mine and v-rog's a while back:

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If I bring my Mossberg with me Saturday, would you help me do this after we shoot skeet?

I have a couple of different 00 buck loads to try, but I'm most interested in seeing what the Federal FliteControl does.
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Pawpaw wrote:If I bring my Mossberg with me Saturday, would you help me do this after we shoot skeet?

I have a couple of different 00 buck loads to try, but I'm most interested in seeing what the Federal FliteControl does.
If you can't get this done then - I would be happy to take you to my club since you are up in Hunt County and we are just south of Tawakoni in Kaufman County. We have a steel plate grease board you can use. Maybe a few rounds skeet or trap also ;-) - way cheaper than Elm Fork!!
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couzin wrote:
Pawpaw wrote:If I bring my Mossberg with me Saturday, would you help me do this after we shoot skeet?

I have a couple of different 00 buck loads to try, but I'm most interested in seeing what the Federal FliteControl does.
If you can't get this done then - I would be happy to take you to my club since you are up in Hunt County and we are just south of Tawakoni in Kaufman County. We have a steel plate grease board you can use. Maybe a few rounds skeet or trap also ;-) - way cheaper than Elm Fork!!
Sounds great! Thanks!
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