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strogg wrote: Thu May 21, 2020 3:22 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote: Thu May 21, 2020 2:29 pm IMHO, there is only one way this virus stops. Heard Immunity. That will never happen while everyone hides in their living rooms. Even a vaccine won't stop it. Not unless 300 million people get the vaccine, and we know that is not going to happen. So at some point all this over reaction has to be brought back in check and everyone will to get back to life again. Now that we all know 99% of the people who get it will be just fine. We also know that 80% of the deaths are in people over 65. It is time to get a grip! This virus does not justify the extreme PARANOIA that is centered around it.

In 1968-1969, a new strain of the flu virus started spreading. This virus was dubbed H3N2. It was never seen before by mankind, and it spread fast and hard, killing a million people worldwide and 100,000 people in the US. Translated to today's numbers, it would've killed 160,000 people in the US. A vaccine was quickly created and circulated. Because of the nature of the virus, it undergoes regular mutation, so the vaccine is currently maintained in the annual flu shot as the virus is still wide spread.

Considering how so few people take the flu shot today, the low number of people who did back then, and also how NOTHING like quarantines or "social distancing" was done to mitigate the spread, how did it just fizzle out into a relative nuisance? As far as I'm concerned, it was just herd immunity unless someone can explain the contrary.

Also, an interesting read on the H3N2 pandemic here: https://nypost.com/2020/05/16/why-life- ... c-of-1969/

The Slippery Slope to Despotism: Paved with Lockdowns, Raids and Forced Vaccinations
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/05/joh ... cinations/

“You have no right not to be vaccinated, you have no right not to wear a mask, you have no right to open up your business… And if you refuse to be vaccinated, the state has the power to literally take you to a doctor’s office and plunge a needle into your arm.”—Alan Dershowitz, Harvard law professor https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/new ... titutional

Bad times are coming for sure, but it’s not a virus we should be concerned about.

Grayling813 wrote: Thu May 21, 2020 7:16 pm The Slippery Slope to Despotism: Paved with Lockdowns, Raids and Forced Vaccinations
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/05/joh ... cinations/

“You have no right not to be vaccinated, you have no right not to wear a mask, you have no right to open up your business… And if you refuse to be vaccinated, the state has the power to literally take you to a doctor’s office and plunge a needle into your arm.”—Alan Dershowitz, Harvard law professor https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/new ... titutional

Bad times are coming for sure, but it’s not a virus we should be concerned about.

The state only has the power I allow it to have. I've lived my life of 51 years a certain way and I'll live the remainder the same way. I have that power.

You vill get in ze boxcar and you vill Like IT!

https://www.foxnews.com/us/ap-count-ove ... sing-homes

AP counts 4300 Coronavirus patients sent to nursing homes in New York, under orders from NY.

New York hasn’t released its own count.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/0 ... eek-later/

20 yo assault suspect tested positive for Coronavirus so Michigan sent him to a nursing home where he filmed himself beating elderly patients and then posted them on social media. Took a week before he was arrested again and removed from the nursing home.

No idea yet whether any of the elderly have now contracted Coronavirus. One 77 year old veteran is in the hospital now, because of his beatings.

philip964 wrote: Sun May 24, 2020 11:14 am https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/0 ... eek-later/

20 yo assault suspect tested positive for Coronavirus so Michigan sent him to a nursing home where he filmed himself beating elderly patients and then posted them on social media. Took a week before he was arrested again and removed from the nursing home.

No idea yet whether any of the elderly have now contracted Coronavirus. One 77 year old veteran is in the hospital now, because of his beatings.

I saw this story a couple days ago and it makes me sick to my stomach. I would love ten minutes alone with that thug.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy ... ome-degree

Covid -19 study shows majority of population may already have some degree of immunity from the virus.

Nice to know now.

03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun May 24, 2020 11:41 am

philip964 wrote: Sun May 24, 2020 11:14 am https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/0 ... eek-later/

20 yo assault suspect tested positive for Coronavirus so Michigan sent him to a nursing home where he filmed himself beating elderly patients and then posted them on social media. Took a week before he was arrested again and removed from the nursing home.

No idea yet whether any of the elderly have now contracted Coronavirus. One 77 year old veteran is in the hospital now, because of his beatings.

I saw this story a couple days ago and it makes me sick to my stomach. I would love ten minutes alone with that thug.

So the question. Are Blue politicians doing this on purpose to increase the casualty count to win in November?

Or are we to believe they are doing this out of stupidity and incompetence.?

philip964 wrote: Sun May 24, 2020 1:22 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun May 24, 2020 11:41 am

philip964 wrote: Sun May 24, 2020 11:14 am https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/0 ... eek-later/

20 yo assault suspect tested positive for Coronavirus so Michigan sent him to a nursing home where he filmed himself beating elderly patients and then posted them on social media. Took a week before he was arrested again and removed from the nursing home.

No idea yet whether any of the elderly have now contracted Coronavirus. One 77 year old veteran is in the hospital now, because of his beatings.

I saw this story a couple days ago and it makes me sick to my stomach. I would love ten minutes alone with that thug.

So the question. Are Blue politicians doing this on purpose to increase the casualty count to win in November?

Or are we to believe they are doing this out of stupidity and incompetence.?

Absolutely, they are. Unlike Republicans, Democrats stick together. I have no doubt leftists are following "the script".

Recent Coronavirus (Covid- 19) Timeline

March 22, 2020 - Sunday 318,662 world, 13,672 dead. 27,004 infected US,
347 dead. 53,578 Italy, 4,825 dead. 81,397 China. Texas has 557 with 5 deaths. Houston at 154.

March 25, 2020 - First day of Quarantine in Houston. Trump declares State of Emergency.

March 29, 2020 - 10:48 am. Sunday 684,652 cases worldwide with 32,113 dead. 124,763 infected US, 2,187 dead. 92,472 Italy with (no data) dead. 82,120 China (is anyone believing this). New York state has 53,520 with 834 deaths. Louisiana has 3,315 with 137 deaths. Texas has 2,535 with 34 deaths. Houston 810 with 6 deaths.

April 1, 2020 - End of first week of Quarantine in Houston.

April 5, 2020 12:46 pm. Sunday 1,249,107 cases worldwide with 67,999 dead. 256,059 recovered. USA 324,052 infected, 9,132 dead 16,789 recovered. 128,948 Italy with 15,362 dead. 130,759 Spain with 12,418 dead. China 82,602 with 3,333 dead (is anyone believing this). New York state has 122,056 with 4,159 deaths. New Jersey has 34,124 with 864 deaths. Louisiana has 12,496 with 409 deaths. Texas has 6,872 with 123 deaths. Houston 2,281(+252) with 35 deaths.

April 8, 2020 End of second week of Quarantine in Houston

April 12, 2020 11:19 am. (16hrs) Easter Sunday 1,800,791 (+30,277 average of +75,290 over 2 days) cases worldwide with 110,892 dead 412,777 recovered. USA 530,830 (+4,434 average of 39,862 over 2 days) infected, 20,646 dead 32,314 recovered, 82,809 JH hospitalized, 39,460 (+496) UofM hospitalized. 152,271 (+0) Italy with 19,468 dead. 166,019 (-15,007) Spain with 16,672 dead. China 83,134 with 3,343 dead (is anyone believing this). New York state has 181,825 (+11,067) with 8,650 deaths, 33,244 hospitalized. New Jersey has 58,151 with 2,183 deaths. California has 22,416 (+710) with 634 deaths. Louisiana has 20,014 (+0) with 806 deaths. Texas has 13,391(+368) with 273 deaths, 1514 hospitalized. Houston 5,289 (+6) with 82 deaths.

April 15, 2020 End of third week of Quarantine in Houston.

April 19, 2020 12:46 pm. Sunday (24 hr) 2,367,758 (+74,114 a 30% drop) cases worldwide with 163,134 dead 609,505 recovered. USA 737,319 (+21,783 a 50% drop) infected, 39,135 dead 66,870 recovered, 114,123 (+1,863 a 33% drop) JH hospitalized, 44,117 (+3,566) UofM hospitalized. Italy 178,972 (+3,047 a 54% drop) with 23,227 dead. Spain 195,944(+4,218) with 20,043 dead. China 83,805 with 4,636 dead (is anyone believing this). New York state has 242,570 (+7,175 a 39% drop) with 17,627 deaths, 54,339 hospitalized. New Jersey has 85,464(+4,073) with 4,364 deaths. California has 30,832 (+1,286) with 1,150 deaths. Florida has 25,996 with 764 deaths. Louisiana has 23,580 (-4) with 1,267 deaths. Texas has 18,982 (+694 a 33% drop) with 485 deaths, 1,321 hospitalized (-201). Houston 7,102 (+289 a 7% drop) with 139 deaths.

April 22, 2020 End of fourth week of Quarantine in Houston.

April 26, 2020 12:20 pm.(19 hr) Sunday 2,934,141(+119,797) cases worldwide with 205,142 dead 853,666 recovered. USA 943,865(+49,724) infected, 55,118 dead 105,982 recovered, 126,194 (+2,104) JH hospitalized, 48,117 (+0) UofM hospitalized. Italy 199,414 (+2,357) with 26977 dead. Spain226,629 (+3,995) with 23,521 dead. China 83,912 with 4,637 dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 18,640(+613) with 2,194 dead. New York state has 282,143 (+0) with 22,376 deaths, 57,103 hospitalized. New Jersey has 105,523(+5,473) with 5,938 deaths. California has 42,626 (+1,895) with 1,698 deaths. Florida has 31,523(+665) with 1,075 deaths. Louisiana has 26,512 (+0) with 1,707 deaths. Georgia has 23,401(+548) with 912 deaths. Texas has 24,157(+1096) with 638 deaths, 1,597 hospitalized (+0). Houston 8,925 (+2) with 184 deaths.

April 27, 2020 First day of Required Facecovering in Harris County, Texas

April 28, 2020 No fine or prison for not facecovering in Texas per Governor Abbott order.

April 29, 2020 End of fifth week of Quarantine in Houston.

May 1, 2020 - First day of partial open in Texas, Florida and Georgia partially opened a little earlier.

May 3, 2020 7:00pm (27 hr) Sunday 3,503,533(+100,124) cases worldwide with 247306 dead 1,124,240 recovered. USA 1,157,687(+34,817) infected, 67,682 dead 180,152 recovered, 48,325 (+0) UofM hospitalized. Italy 210,717 (+1,389) with 28,884 dead. Spain 217,466(+4,031) with 24,543 dead. Brazil 101,147 with 7,051 dead. China 83,959 (+1) with 4,637 (+0) dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 22,317 (+235) with 2,679 dead. New York state has 316,415 (+3,438) with 24,708 deaths,68,736 hospitalized. New Jersey has 126,744 (+3,027) with 7,871 deaths. California has 54,499 (+2,203) with 2,216 deaths. Florida has 36,078(+615) with 1,379 deaths. Louisiana has 29,340 (+200) with 2,012 deaths. Georgia has 28,666(+352) with 1,184 deaths. Texas has 31,998(+1,461) with 878 deaths, 1,542 hospitalized (+0). Houston 10,936 (+432) with 260 deaths.

May 6, 2020 End of sixth week of Quarantine in Houston with now more exceptions.

May 8, 2020 - Hair, tan and nail salons and public swimming pools can reopen in Texas. Tattoo parlors, Bars and Gyms are still closed.

May 10, 2020 11:52 pm (36 hr) Mother's Day Sunday 4,101,699(+99,535) cases worldwide with 282,709 dead 1,408,980 recovered. USA 1,329,260 (+30,370) infected, 79,528 dead 216,169 recovered, 41,832 (-2,837) UofM hospitalized. Italy 219,070 (+942) with 30,560 dead. Spain 224,350 (+1,451) with 26,621 dead. Russia 209,688 (+10,914) with 1,915 dead. Brazil 162,699 (+11,338) with 11,123 dead. China 84,010 (+17) with 4,637 (+0) dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 26,322 (+528) with 3,225 dead. New York state has 335,395 (+994) with 26,641 deaths, 72,715 hospitalized. New Jersey has 138,754 (+2,381) with 9,256 deaths. California has 67,875 (+2,664) with 2,718 deaths. Florida has40,596 (+698) with 1,721 deaths. Louisiana has 31,600 (+372) with 2,286 deaths. Georgia has 33,836(+908) with 1,406 deaths. Texas has 39,258(+1,285) with 1,094 deaths, 1,542 hospitalized (+0). Houston 12,531 (+307) with 325 deaths.

May 13, 2020 End of seventh week of Quarantine in Houston, more stuff opening on Friday.

May 17, 2020 2:30 pm (22 hr) Sunday 4,687,320 (+81,647) cases worldwide with 313,973 dead 1,721,714 recovered. USA 1,478,241(+14,745) infected, 89,207 dead 268,376 recovered, 40,027 (-0) UofM hospitalized. Italy 225,435 (+675) with 31,908 dead. Spain 230,698 (+0) with 27,563 dead. UK 244,603 (+3,158) with 34,716 dead. Russia 281,752 (+9,709) with 2,631 dead. Brazil 233,648 (+4,771) with 15,668 dead. China 84,047 (+9) with 4,638 (+1) dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 30,143 (+466) with 3,679 dead. New York state has 350,121 (+1,889) with 28,232 deaths, 75,163 hospitalized. New Jersey has 146,504 (+1,415) with 10,363 deaths. California has 78,860 (+1,854) with 3,208 deaths. Florida has 45,588 (+777) with 1,973 deaths. Louisiana has 34,432 (+315) with 2,491 deaths. Georgia has 37,667 (+506) with 1,606 deaths. Texas has 47,470 (+363) with 1,318 deaths, 1,542 hospitalized (+0). Houston 14,394 (+144) with 376 (+0) deaths.

May 20, 2020 End of Eighth week of Quarantine in Houston, extended to June 10 by Judge Hildalgo. More stuff opens on Friday by order of the Gov.

May 20, 2020 2:30pm (22 hr) 4,952,882 (+71,263) cases worldwide with 325,712 dead 1,723,379 recovered. USA 1,539,633(+15,526) infected, 92,645 dead 289,392 recovered, 40,027 (-0) UofM hospitalized. Italy 227,364 (+665) with 32,330 dead. Spain 232,555 (+518) with 27,888 dead. UK 250,141 (+4) with 35,422 dead. Russia 308,705 (+8,764) with 2,972 dead. Brazil 271,628 (+5,732) with 17,971 dead. China 84,063 (+0) with 4,638 (+0) dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 31,523 (+724) with 3,831 dead. New York state has 354,370 (+1,525) with 28,636 deaths, 76,168 hospitalized. New Jersey has 150,776 (+1,420) with 10,749 deaths. California has 83,865 (+1,961) with 3,420 deaths. Florida has 47,471 (+521) with 2,096 deaths. Louisiana has 35,316 (+278) with 2,608 deaths. Georgia has 39,664 (+843) with 1,688 deaths. Texas has 50,615 (+1,307) with 1,389 deaths, 1,542 hospitalized (+0). Houston 15,461 (+412) with 387 (+3) deaths.

May 24, 2020 4:00pm (98 hr) Sunday 5,370,893 (+104,517) (per 24 hr average over 4 days typical) cases worldwide with 343,617 dead 2,149,412 recovered. USA 1,639,872(+25,059) infected, 97,495 dead 361,239 recovered, 40,027 (-0) UofM hospitalized. Italy 229,858 (+623) with 32,785 dead. Spain 235,772 (+804) with 28,752 dead. UK 260,916 (+2,693) with 36,875 dead. Russia 344,481 (+8,994) with 3,541 dead. Brazil 347,398 (+18,942) with 22,013 dead. China 84,084 (+21) with 4,638 (+0) dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 33,459 (+484) with 3,998 dead. New York state has 361,515 (+1,786) with 29,141 deaths, 77,034 hospitalized. New Jersey has 154,154 (+844) with 11,138 deaths. California has 93,025 (+xx) with 3,738 deaths. Florida has 50,867 (+xx) with 2,237 deaths. Louisiana has 37,169 (+xx) with 2,691 deaths. Georgia has 42,495 (+xx) with 1,824 deaths. Texas has 55,145 (+xx) with 1,520 deaths, 1,542 hospitalized (+0). Houston 16,655 (+298) with 411 (+6) deaths.

For detailed information on Texas see https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/ops ... b9cafc8b83
For worldwide information on Covid-19 https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 7b48e9ecf6
For Covid-19 hospital admissions https://carlsonschool.umn.edu/mili-misr ... ng-project
For FOX timeline https://www.foxnews.com/world/timeline- ... us-coverup
For worldwide mortality analysis https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
By County USA Map https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map

Brazil now in second place, working to top New York. Lots of Stories of how bad Sweden is doing, but look at the numbers yourself. Canada has now passed China.

CDC is adding "probable" cases to the list soon.

https://wwwn.cdc.gov/nndss/conditions/c ... tion/2020/

https://in.dental-tribune.com/news/new- ... -whos-3-4/

. The new estimates of fatality rate released by the CDC are as follows for different age groups:

0-49 years old: 0.05%
50-64 years old: 0.2%
65+ years old: 1.3%
Overall ages: 0.4%

The CDC has also cautioned that the numbers are likely to change as new data arrives. But, if you consider how we have gone from 3.4 % to 2.0 % to now 0.26 %, it seems more likely that the number might get even lower as we get more data.

So overall, 2.6 times more deadly than the flu. A far cry from the 3.6% fatality rate the China propaganda arm (WHO) are still saying.

03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun May 24, 2020 11:41 am

philip964 wrote: Sun May 24, 2020 11:14 am https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/0 ... eek-later/

20 yo assault suspect tested positive for Coronavirus so Michigan sent him to a nursing home where he filmed himself beating elderly patients and then posted them on social media. Took a week before he was arrested again and removed from the nursing home.

No idea yet whether any of the elderly have now contracted Coronavirus. One 77 year old veteran is in the hospital now, because of his beatings.

I saw this story a couple days ago and it makes me sick to my stomach. I would love ten minutes alone with that thug.

I wouldn't need 10 minutes. 60 seconds would seem like eternity in hell for him by the time i was done.