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Definition of civilian
1 : a specialist in Roman or modern civil law
2 a : one not on active duty in the armed services or not on a police or firefighting force
b : outsider 1
I'm truly pleased we could find common ground.NNT wrote: Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:05 pm I totally agree if they work outside the law it is very dangerous.They do not have the right to arrest me any time the choose, there are laws (as I mentioned previously) that dictate what, where, how, etc.
I also completely agree with your last comment. I wish they were not a necessity.
As to the what we can carry, I believe a free people should be able to own any and all firearms, tanks, whatever. If we use them to harm others there should be stiff consequences.
I understand language matters, and correct words can make a big difference. I also understand we use words to communicate ideas, and if we (as a people) differ on some terms, but understand the intended message, we can get along.
The origin and correct usage of terms like rights, privilege authority duty morals ethics, etc could be an interesting and lively debate in a different time and place.
It sounds like a term of derision. Like a mark.Soccerdad1995 wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:58 am Actually the term "civilian" can also be used to describe someone who is not part of a group. Like professional poker players might refer to casual tourists as "civilians". This might be more of a slang term, though. I'm not sure how this relates to the topic of this thread, though.
In the case I cited, it could be taken that way. It means someone who is not very good at the game, and who will play in a pretty straightforward manner. I'm not sure whether that would be considered a term of "derision" though. Personally, I think it is more derisive to say that someone is a habitual gambler. Saying that they are a tourist who is not a regular poker player is not an insult. It's just a statement of fact.OlBill wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:52 pmIt sounds like a term of derision. Like a mark.Soccerdad1995 wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:58 am Actually the term "civilian" can also be used to describe someone who is not part of a group. Like professional poker players might refer to casual tourists as "civilians". This might be more of a slang term, though. I'm not sure how this relates to the topic of this thread, though.
Yep. We often referred to a retiree as being promoted to PFC.Pawpaw wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:22 pm When I was in the military, it seemed pretty obvious. Anyone who didn't wear a military uniform was a civilian.
A local police officer was a "civilian cop".
It was also very common for someone who was getting ready to separate or retire to brag they were being "promoted to civilian".
oljames3 wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:42 pmYep. We often referred to a retiree as being promoted to PFC.Pawpaw wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:22 pm When I was in the military, it seemed pretty obvious. Anyone who didn't wear a military uniform was a civilian.
A local police officer was a "civilian cop".
It was also very common for someone who was getting ready to separate or retire to brag they were being "promoted to civilian".
Believe it or not, we said the same thing in the Air Force.Allons wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:08 pmoljames3 wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:42 pmYep. We often referred to a retiree as being promoted to PFC.Pawpaw wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:22 pm When I was in the military, it seemed pretty obvious. Anyone who didn't wear a military uniform was a civilian.
A local police officer was a "civilian cop".
It was also very common for someone who was getting ready to separate or retire to brag they were being "promoted to civilian".
Indeed. We can be an uncouth band of brothers.Pawpaw wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:53 pmBelieve it or not, we said the same thing in the Air Force.Allons wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:08 pmoljames3 wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:42 pmYep. We often referred to a retiree as being promoted to PFC.Pawpaw wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:22 pm When I was in the military, it seemed pretty obvious. Anyone who didn't wear a military uniform was a civilian.
A local police officer was a "civilian cop".
It was also very common for someone who was getting ready to separate or retire to brag they were being "promoted to civilian".
Even if it's not an insult, it's a clear sign of 'us' versus 'them' mentality.OlBill wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:52 pmIt sounds like a term of derision. Like a mark.Soccerdad1995 wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:58 am Actually the term "civilian" can also be used to describe someone who is not part of a group. Like professional poker players might refer to casual tourists as "civilians". This might be more of a slang term, though. I'm not sure how this relates to the topic of this thread, though.