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Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:30 pm
by safety1
FormerTSgt wrote:pdxmale wrote:here is the effected change they came up with.....
original:
SECTION 29. Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, is amended by adding Section 411.2049 to read as follows:
Sec. 411.2049. CERTAIN INVESTIGATORY STOPS AND INQUIRIES PROHIBITED. A peace officer may not make an investigatory stop or other temporary detention to inquire as to whether a person possesses a handgun license solely because the person is carrying a partially or wholly visible handgun carried in a shoulder or belt holster.
NEW:
SECTION __. Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, is amended by adding Section 411.2049 to read as follows:
Sec. 411.2049. CERTAIN INVESTIGATORY STOPS AND INQUIRIES PROHIBITED. A peace officer may not make an investigatory stop or other temporary detention to inquire as to a person's possession of a handgun license solely because the person is carrying in a shoulder or belt holster a partially or wholly visible handgun. [FA9]
So if they agreed on something it now has to go back through the House and Senate? Here comes the filibuster...
Yes, but if it gets back fast enough....they'd have to filibuster for possibly a few days! (2)
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:32 pm
by chamberc
That really depends on how quickly it's tossed back... odds are very low.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:32 pm
by jerry_r60
We learned the other night that it's not over until it's over. We have a threat of a filibuster now and that may very well happen but who knows what other deals might get struck between now and the end. Doesn't look good but just saying......
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:33 pm
by chamberc
jerry_r60 wrote:We learned the other night that it's not over until it's over. We have a threat of a filibuster now and that may very well happen but who knows what other deals might get struck between now and the end. Doesn't look good but just saying......
No argument, but it doesn't even mean that it will get to a vote... much less be subjected to a filibuster.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:34 pm
by safety1
other thread is saying the amendments stay in as were?? nothing changed (unconfirmed by myself)
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:35 pm
by chamberc
safety1 wrote:other thread is saying the amendments stay in as where?? nothing changed (unconfirmed by myself)
Wording changed, but the amendment stayed as a whole...
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:35 pm
by safety1
chamberc wrote:safety1 wrote:other thread is saying the amendments stay in as where?? nothing changed (unconfirmed by myself)
Wording changed, but the amendment stayed as a whole...
Thanks for the update
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:39 pm
by arthurcw
jerry_r60 wrote:We learned the other night that it's not over until it's over. We have a threat of a filibuster now and that may very well happen but who knows what other deals might get struck between now and the end. Doesn't look good but just saying......
Sorry. But I think the Fat Lady and Don Merideth have taken the stage. Given what others in the know have said and other threads that have started, I think everyone with skin in the game is ready for the show to be over and concentrate on '17. ...Possibly without OC if "those elements" that supposedly support it can't be contained.
Sucks but... I hope I'm wrong. At this point, not coming up for a vote at all may be better than a Money-Drive filibuster or a down-in-flames vote.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:41 pm
by thechl
Didn't Ellis and West for for open carry, once the Huffines amendment was added, because it seems to give more protection against profiling?
While I don't doubt their anti-gun bias, the fact that the amendment remains may be enough to forestall any filibuster, even if they vote against the bill now.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:43 pm
by harrycallahan
If there's wisdom in this action, I'm struggling hard to find it.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:43 pm
by JollyHappyDad
The chant/rant/mantra during concurrence debate was that LE did not want the bill with the amendment, and we respect LE, so send it to conference so it can be fixed out of respect for LE. Then they leave it in? Lucy's got some 'splainin' to do...
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:46 pm
by safety1
JollyHappyDad wrote:The chant/rant/mantra during concurrence debate was that LE did not want the bill with the amendment, and we respect LE, so send it to conference so it can be fixed out of respect for LE. Then they leave it in? Lucy's got some 'splainin' to do...
It was likely the only option. A little forward thinking would have been nice.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:46 pm
by safety1
harrycallahan wrote:If there's wisdom in this action, I'm struggling hard to find it.
They are out of options, this must have been the only one.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:49 pm
by NorthTexas
pdxmale wrote:here is the effected change they came up with.....
original:
SECTION 29. Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, is amended by adding Section 411.2049 to read as follows:
Sec. 411.2049. CERTAIN INVESTIGATORY STOPS AND INQUIRIES PROHIBITED. A peace officer may not make an investigatory stop or other temporary detention to inquire as to whether a person possesses a handgun license solely because the person is carrying a partially or wholly visible handgun carried in a shoulder or belt holster.
NEW:
SECTION __. Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, is amended by adding Section 411.2049 to read as follows:
Sec. 411.2049. CERTAIN INVESTIGATORY STOPS AND INQUIRIES PROHIBITED. A peace officer may not make an investigatory stop or other temporary detention to inquire as to a person's possession of a handgun license solely because the person is carrying in a shoulder or belt holster a partially or wholly visible handgun. [FA9]
I can't find this on the Texas Legislature website, can you share a link?
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:50 pm
by TVGuy
pdxmale wrote:here is the effected change they came up with.....
original:
SECTION 29. Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, is amended by adding Section 411.2049 to read as follows:
Sec. 411.2049. CERTAIN INVESTIGATORY STOPS AND INQUIRIES PROHIBITED. A peace officer may not make an investigatory stop or other temporary detention to inquire as to whether a person possesses a handgun license solely because the person is carrying a partially or wholly visible handgun carried in a shoulder or belt holster.
NEW:
SECTION __. Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, is amended by adding Section 411.2049 to read as follows:
Sec. 411.2049. CERTAIN INVESTIGATORY STOPS AND INQUIRIES PROHIBITED. A peace officer may not make an investigatory stop or other temporary detention to inquire as to a person's possession of a handgun license solely because the person is carrying in a shoulder or belt holster a partially or wholly visible handgun. [FA9]
Where did you get this information? Please cite it.