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Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 5:12 pm
by Taypo
TVGuy wrote:baseballguy2001 wrote:There is NOTHING wrong with those two paragraphs. The fact they (LEO's) want that language removed (or something similar) is proof they want to make stops solely on the basis of somebody open carrying.
Anybody that says that language is un-needed is either terribly mis-informed, or a government lobbyist.
Many of us disagree, are not mis-informed, and are not government lobbyists. You sound much like OCT or Huffines himself.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 5:12 pm
by mojo84
jmra wrote:From what I'm seeing from the other threads the amendment has been removed in conference.
Multiple sources are reporting this and they are saying it's coming from Huffines and other committee members.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 5:13 pm
by pdxmale
look it up --- just like I did
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/84 ... navpanes=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 5:14 pm
by NorthTexas
http://www.statesman.com/news/news/sena ... ill/nmQW7/
"Meantime, a House-Senate conference committee made short work of House Bill 910, which allows those with a concealed handgun license to openly carry a firearm in a shoulder or belt holster.
The bill will return to both houses with a major sticking point removed — an amendment, added by Sen. Don Huffines, R-Dallas, that barred law enforcement from detaining or questioning those with a holstered gun solely to check for a concealed handgun license."
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 5:16 pm
by CJD
This is not the committee report.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 5:16 pm
by baseballguy2001
Until ego's are put in check, RINO speakers removed from office, Licensed open carry won't ever be the law in Texas.
As voters we changed every major office but one, the one we can't change as voters. There was a big deal made about the recorded speaker vote at the beginning of the session, which doesn't mean a thing just now.
Strauss sat on this for weeks and now we are cramming for a bill -- he needs to be removed.
“There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit.”
Ronald Reagan
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 5:17 pm
by pdxmale
I think I misread that report ------ it ONLY shows the differences NOT THE COMPRIMISE
MY BAD
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 5:21 pm
by clarionite
pdxmale wrote:I think I misread that report ------ it ONLY shows the differences NOT THE COMPRIMISE
MY BAD
I believe that's what the third column is for. And it looks to be removed.
Edit: Looking at it again... I'm not sure what this document is.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 5:22 pm
by mojo84
DMN Politics @DMNPolitics 2m2 minutes ago
Open carry's passage seems likely, after key lawmakers strip amendment opposed by police | @tombenning
http://share.d-news.co/OHY1TUS" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; #txlege
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 5:31 pm
by baseballguy2001
jmra wrote:So, is the owner of this forum "terribly mis-informed" or a "government lobbyist"? Can't wait for an answer to this one.
Mr. Cotton
can't tell us the inside scoop on what's happening in Austin -- draw you own conclusion, I did.
All my reps in Austin voted correctly in my view. They were part of the 19 who voted against RINO Speaker Strauss, and they all voted for the licensed open carry legislation. As voters we voted in the most conservative legislature in history, and it looks like as 2A supporters, we got hosed.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 5:34 pm
by jmra
baseballguy2001 wrote:jmra wrote:So, is the owner of this forum "terribly mis-informed" or a "government lobbyist"? Can't wait for an answer to this one.
Mr. Cotton
can't tell us the inside scoop on what's happening in Austin -- draw you own conclusion, I did.
All my reps in Austin voted correctly in my view. They were part of the 19 who voted against RINO Speaker Strauss, and they all voted for the licensed open carry legislation. As voters we voted in the most conservative legislature in history, and it looks like as 2A supporters, we got hosed.
We got hosed alright - by Huffines and the like.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 6:13 pm
by jerry_r60
baseballguy2001 wrote:jmra wrote:So, is the owner of this forum "terribly mis-informed" or a "government lobbyist"? Can't wait for an answer to this one.
Mr. Cotton
can't tell us the inside scoop on what's happening in Austin -- draw you own conclusion, I did.
All my reps in Austin voted correctly in my view. They were part of the 19 who voted against RINO Speaker Strauss, and they all voted for the licensed open carry legislation. As voters we voted in the most conservative legislature in history, and it looks like as 2A supporters, we got hosed.
I'll step on a soap box for a minute....
There are lots of new folks on here watching the legislature for the first time. Many have commented, myself included even though this is now the third session I've watched (not very many compared to others) that it's been very educational. What this admits is that I/we didn't really understand all the ins and outs of the process. We learn. It's interesting how adamant many of us are in our position and in the next breath admit that we are neophytes in how this all works. I get that we are frustrated and want an outcome but we should watch and learn and be cautious with our bravado.
I have seen Charles make a statement a few times that came to mind as I watched the debate yesterday. When the people that are usually very anti 2a/gun are the ones supporting what sounds good for us and/or, the ones who have been long time proven supporters are voting against it, that's a pretty good sign there is more to it than I/we are seeing on the surface and we should be thinking twice about our position. Our position is more than likely based on a lack of info or understanding. Doesn't mean always but a caution flag should be flying. I think the phrase I've seen is "when someone who is F rated is voting for it"....
....stepping off the box.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 6:26 pm
by The Wall
So after reading the last 3 pages on this topic I still don't know if anything was resolved today.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 6:34 pm
by NorthTexas
The Wall wrote:So after reading the last 3 pages on this topic I still don't know if anything was resolved today.
http://www.statesman.com/news/news/sena ... ill/nmQW7/
Open carry had the Huffines amendment removed in conference committee, now will head back to both houses for votes possibly as soon as Friday.
Campus carry is also heading to a conference committee.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 6:37 pm
by The Wall
Thank you very much.