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Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 10:28 pm
by The Annoyed Man
ScooterSissy wrote:jmra wrote:
If you support the passage of OC then the amendment becomes a problem for YOU because as we have learned it will not pass with the amendment.
I think that we forget that it took many sessions to get where we are with CHL and it may take many sessions to get where we want to be. But one thing has held true throughout, the all or nothing approach has never worked in our favor.
In my opinion, if we have a majority of Republicans in both sides of the Texas legislature, and they won't pass a bill that contains an amendment articulating and codifying a known 4th amendment issue; then we have some of the wrong R's in office.
And maybe that is the case....... but, that is the legislature we have to work with. And with all due respect, you're still willing to sacrifice HB 910 because it's not ideologically pure enough, and then gamble that
next session, after the bad taste left in legislators mouths from this session, that you can get an ideologically pure bill passed
then? That's just not a realistic appraisal.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 10:44 pm
by oljames3
The Annoyed Man wrote:ScooterSissy wrote:jmra wrote:
If you support the passage of OC then the amendment becomes a problem for YOU because as we have learned it will not pass with the amendment.
I think that we forget that it took many sessions to get where we are with CHL and it may take many sessions to get where we want to be. But one thing has held true throughout, the all or nothing approach has never worked in our favor.
In my opinion, if we have a majority of Republicans in both sides of the Texas legislature, and they won't pass a bill that contains an amendment articulating and codifying a known 4th amendment issue; then we have some of the wrong R's in office.
And maybe that is the case....... but, that is the legislature we have to work with. And with all due respect, you're still willing to sacrifice HB 910 because it's not ideologically pure enough, and then gamble that
next session, after the bad taste left in legislators mouths from this session, that you can get an ideologically pure bill passed
then? That's just not a realistic appraisal.
Thirty-four years in Field Artillery gives me a firm understanding of the concept of "close enough". 910 without Dutton/Huffines is close enough. At this point, all else is a bridge too far.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 10:48 pm
by arthurcw
oljames3 wrote:
Thirty-four years in Field Artillery gives me a firm understanding of the concept of "close enough". 910 without Dutton/Huffines is close enough. At this point, all else is a bridge too far.
You win quote of the night.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 11:03 pm
by safety1
arthurcw wrote:oljames3 wrote:
Thirty-four years in Field Artillery gives me a firm understanding of the concept of "close enough". 910 without Dutton/Huffines is close enough. At this point, all else is a bridge too far.
You win quote of the night.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 11:11 pm
by frreed
Marine Corps Artillery- One Shot One Village (Oorah!)
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 6:41 am
by casp625
ELIGIBLE AT 7:40 PM MAY 29, 2015:
HB 910 Phillips / Flynn / White, James / Riddle / Guillen / et al.
Relating to the authority of a person who is licensed to carry a handgun to openly carry a holstered handgun; creating criminal offenses.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:04 am
by NotRPB
casp625 wrote:ELIGIBLE AT 7:40 PM MAY 29, 2015:
HB 910 Phillips / Flynn / White, James / Riddle / Guillen / et al.
Relating to the authority of a person who is licensed to carry a handgun to openly carry a holstered handgun; creating criminal offenses.
and below that
The Senate requests the appointment of a conference committee on:
SB 11 Birdwell / et al.
SP: Fletcher
Relating to the carrying of handguns on the campuses of and certain other locations associated with institutions of higher education; providing a criminal penalty.
(Senate Conferees: Birdwell, Ch./Burton/Hinojosa/Huffman/Schwertner)
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 150529.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:17 am
by oohrah
Birdwell (the author) is not willing to give on private university opt out. If he does not prevail, it most likely dies.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:20 am
by harrycallahan
oohrah wrote:Birdwell (the author) is not willing to give on private university opt out. If he does not prevail, it most likely dies.
I am confused by your statement. Birdwell wants to keep or toss the amendment?
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:24 am
by AF-Odin
oljames3 and frreed
For "close enough" I will go with my community. Can you say "ARC LIGHT?" A 3 ship of B-52Ds with 108 Mk 82s each. Now that only has to be "close enough."
Now if we can just get this bill through both houses tonight, that will be more han close enough for me. have sent e-mails of encouragement on this to my Rep, Senator, the Speaker and the Lt Gov.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:28 am
by oohrah
Birdwell supports "private property" rights. He opposes the amendment that would prohibit private univ from opting out. Baylor is in his district.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:32 am
by harrycallahan
Is there opposition to removing that amendment?
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:36 am
by NotRPB
I think an argument is something like:
Government gives Taxpayer dollar grants for research and stuff, to "Private" schools
Students are given taxpayer funded grants, to give to "private" schools
At what point, how many public tax dollars must be given before the public paying gets a say in what goes on there?
These are not Mom & Pop "private" grocery stores that aren't getting public taxpayer money ... we are talking about millions & millions & millions of public tax dollars pouring into those "private" colleges.
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Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:40 am
by camjr
I'm with Annoyed Man. 95% is better than nothing. The vast majority of CHL holders won't be practicing OC in metropolitan areas where the ammendment opposition comes from, but I anticipate seeing a lot of OC on opening day of dove season on 9/1/16 out in the rural area restaurants between morning and afternoon hunts! Get the law on the books, and fix it down the road.
Now, just get the darn thing to the Governor!
Cheers!
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:45 am
by LSUTiger
I'm with the "take what we can get" crowd.