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Unfortunately, reporting suspicious behavior and/or acts against people from certain backgrounds and with certain lifestyles would get you either fired, banned, canceled etc these days, making you the villain and the target of the PC culture. Examples, people practicing Islam, “alternative” lifestyles lgbtq……, people of color, any of those would get you on a cancel hit list in this upside down society.03Lightningrocks wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 9:03 am What I am not understanding is how this guy was not being reported left and right for his deviant behavior. I am not OK with red flag laws as they will end up being abused by divorce attorney's and government officials to punish innocent people, but when someone is acting like a total lunatic, nothing is done to stop them.
The education system, law enforcement, and the legal system really need to get a handle on this stuff before it gets worse. That's the sort of stuff that can very easily lead to "vigilante justice". All it takes is one wrong comment or threat from one of those sicko types (or worse, some dumb kid who thinks they're being "funny" and thinks they're making a joke), and a concerned parent decides that since the police won't take care of it, the only way to prevent another deadly incident is to take matters into their own hands. I grew up in the South Texas Brush Country, there are miles and miles of empty mesquite brush where the remains of illegals are found many months after they die trying to walk through. The coyotes, the buzzards, and the wild hogs can reduce a corpse pretty quickly.philip964 wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 8:36 am https://nypost.com/2022/05/30/new-video ... dead-cats/
Shooter grinning while holding bag of bloody dead cats.
A law enforcement source familiar with the investigation said surveillance video and audio verifies the employee removed the rock holding the door open and closed it.
If it is true, how on earth did the shooter just walk right in? It would have to be unlocked. Which is not much different than hanging open.RoyGBiv wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 4:05 pm Hopefully this is true..
Lawyer: Uvalde teacher did not leave door open that gunman used to enter Robb Elementary School
A law enforcement source familiar with the investigation said surveillance video and audio verifies the employee removed the rock holding the door open and closed it.
The rock could be a chunk of asphalt or some kind of composite. A small pebble could have fallen off when she moved it and that pebble could have prevented the door from shutting completely and locking.03Lightningrocks wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 6:10 pmIf it is true, how on earth did the shooter just walk right in? It would have to be unlocked. Which is not much different than hanging open.RoyGBiv wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 4:05 pm Hopefully this is true..
Lawyer: Uvalde teacher did not leave door open that gunman used to enter Robb Elementary School
A law enforcement source familiar with the investigation said surveillance video and audio verifies the employee removed the rock holding the door open and closed it.
I think this is incorrect. I read that it was the chief of the school districts police that was not responding to a second interview request. He is not part of the Uvalde PD.philip964 wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 6:18 pm
Uvalde Police and school police no longer Cooperating with State Police investigation.
Yep. Disgusting. But some of those officers and that school police chief are more disgusting and do not deserve our support. I'll defend all of the great officers out there (which is most of them), but these bad ones over the past few years sure are making them all look bad.
The Chief has obviously heard our advice to never talk to the police after you are involved in a shooting. The governor and the media have already characterized his decision as wrong and are looking for someone to blame for this tragedy. We all know who is primarily at fault here (the shooter), but there are enough mistakes that someone else will go down in flames. Will it just be a career ending decision or are they going to try to put someone in jail over this?C-dub wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 10:07 pmI think this is incorrect. I read that it was the chief of the school districts police that was not responding to a second interview request. He is not part of the Uvalde PD.philip964 wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 6:18 pm
Uvalde Police and school police no longer Cooperating with State Police investigation.
I thought the policy in school shootings changed a while ago. Instead of waiting outside and doing nothing, the new policy was to go in as fast as possible? Why was that not done?srothstein wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 10:53 pmThe Chief has obviously heard our advice to never talk to the police after you are involved in a shooting. The governor and the media have already characterized his decision as wrong and are looking for someone to blame for this tragedy. We all know who is primarily at fault here (the shooter), but there are enough mistakes that someone else will go down in flames. Will it just be a career ending decision or are they going to try to put someone in jail over this?C-dub wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 10:07 pmI think this is incorrect. I read that it was the chief of the school districts police that was not responding to a second interview request. He is not part of the Uvalde PD.philip964 wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 6:18 pm
Uvalde Police and school police no longer Cooperating with State Police investigation.
Look at what the media is doing to the Uvalde ISD Police Chief. Look at what they were doing to the unnamed teacher who propped the door open to go get something from her car. Does anyone on this forum still think the advice to not talk to the police if you are involved in a shooting is bad advice?
PS> I do not know if the ISD chief made a bad decision or not. I was not there and I do not know what was happening when he made the decision. I do know that the investigation is now going to take an even longer time to complete, at least in part because of the rush to judgment. I also do know that there are very different protocols for police handing an active shooter versus a barricaded armed subject, either with or without hostages.
Here’s what I do know:srothstein wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 10:53 pmThe Chief has obviously heard our advice to never talk to the police after you are involved in a shooting. The governor and the media have already characterized his decision as wrong and are looking for someone to blame for this tragedy. We all know who is primarily at fault here (the shooter), but there are enough mistakes that someone else will go down in flames. Will it just be a career ending decision or are they going to try to put someone in jail over this?C-dub wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 10:07 pmI think this is incorrect. I read that it was the chief of the school districts police that was not responding to a second interview request. He is not part of the Uvalde PD.philip964 wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 6:18 pm
Uvalde Police and school police no longer Cooperating with State Police investigation.
Look at what the media is doing to the Uvalde ISD Police Chief. Look at what they were doing to the unnamed teacher who propped the door open to go get something from her car. Does anyone on this forum still think the advice to not talk to the police if you are involved in a shooting is bad advice?
PS> I do not know if the ISD chief made a bad decision or not. I was not there and I do not know what was happening when he made the decision. I do know that the investigation is now going to take an even longer time to complete, at least in part because of the rush to judgment. I also do know that there are very different protocols for police handing an active shooter versus a barricaded armed subject, either with or without hostages.