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flechero wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:18 am My wife had reaction, as did my mother in law. One of my wife's Drs said it actually pretty common- they just don't publicize it and many of her colleagues treat symptoms as an independent thing and don't report the relationship to the shot.

I fear that there is a ton of valuable [and damaging] info not being shared with the public.

I'm still waiting for the study that compares the effectiveness of the covid shots vs natural immunity. All the news is unvaxxed this and that.... but the Dr's we know are saying their load is vaxxed/boosted people, or unvaxxed that never had covid... further stating that reinfections are rare.

Chemist45 wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:14 am Since I got the Covid shot, I've realized that Joe Biden gets a bad rap and we should be nicer to him.
After the 2nd shot I understood that the pharma companies are maligned and should not have their profits taxed.
Wonder how I'll feel after the booster?

flechero wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:18 am My wife had reaction, as did my mother in law. One of my wife's Drs said it actually pretty common- they just don't publicize it and many of her colleagues treat symptoms as an independent thing and don't report the relationship to the shot.

I fear that there is a ton of valuable [and damaging] info not being shared with the public.

I'm still waiting for the study that compares the effectiveness of the covid shots vs natural immunity. All the news is unvaxxed this and that.... but the Dr's we know are saying their load is vaxxed/boosted people, or unvaxxed that never had covid... further stating that reinfections are rare.

jerry_r60 wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:33 am

flechero wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:18 am My wife had reaction, as did my mother in law. One of my wife's Drs said it actually pretty common- they just don't publicize it and many of her colleagues treat symptoms as an independent thing and don't report the relationship to the shot.

I fear that there is a ton of valuable [and damaging] info not being shared with the public.

I'm still waiting for the study that compares the effectiveness of the covid shots vs natural immunity. All the news is unvaxxed this and that.... but the Dr's we know are saying their load is vaxxed/boosted people, or unvaxxed that never had covid... further stating that reinfections are rare.

Here is some of that info you mentioned you are looking for.
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/ ... ed-to-know

few real-world epidemiologic studies exist to support the benefit of vaccination for previously infected persons.

flechero wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 2:13 pm

jerry_r60 wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:33 am

flechero wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:18 am My wife had reaction, as did my mother in law. One of my wife's Drs said it actually pretty common- they just don't publicize it and many of her colleagues treat symptoms as an independent thing and don't report the relationship to the shot.

I fear that there is a ton of valuable [and damaging] info not being shared with the public.

I'm still waiting for the study that compares the effectiveness of the covid shots vs natural immunity. All the news is unvaxxed this and that.... but the Dr's we know are saying their load is vaxxed/boosted people, or unvaxxed that never had covid... further stating that reinfections are rare.

Here is some of that info you mentioned you are looking for.
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/ ... ed-to-know

THanks for that link, interesting read and subsequent read through it's links.

THey still don't give any real data on effectiveness of nat. immunity.

Every time I read through the studies and the cite's I come to the conclusion that the initial reports are cherry picked. From on of the actual studies cited in that link

few real-world epidemiologic studies exist to support the benefit of vaccination for previously infected persons.

The studies say that vax after infection is better but never gives you full picture. One says you significantly enhance your protected with both natural and vax but never gives a natural rate. So is it worth the risks to go from a 0.0X chance to a 0.00x chance? I think not. Especially since omnicron is less severe and my response to the original covid was very mild.

03Lightningrocks wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:04 am Did I mention growing a tail? I am also beginning to be able to breath under water.

NotRPB wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:37 am got 1st moderna with 1st responder group in January, 2nd shot Feb 4th, boosted Oct 22
Day after 2nd shot during February ice storm. i had been standing over a portable gas heater & felt warm, so i took an ibuprofin & realized the gas heater was warm too. my arm ached a while after both1st & 2nd shot. They said to exercise the arm... that was why it ached, i do not like exercise.

I am part of the TexasCares U.T.study and my antibodies were off the chart protecting me over 2,500 per ml in Sept, 8 moths after the 2nd dose, but i got a booster in October anyway because after EACH of the 1st 2 shots i had more energy like A VITAMIN B-12 , cleaned the house the car mowed the grass, even took a bath once, I got up from the lazyboy to fetch the remote control etc. ...Now, over a month after 3rd Shot Oct booster, i just got results back on second antibody test and i'm still "off the chart protected" over 2,500 antibodies per ml (that's as high as it measures) So, I'm glad I did it & can still pick my nose without washing my hands, that sanitizer hurt when i rubbed my eyes

Since i actually felt better more energy etc after vaccines, I also later got a shingles Shingrex shot last year which hurt way more than the Moderna.

RoyGBiv wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 7:59 am

NotRPB wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:37 am got 1st moderna with 1st responder group in January, 2nd shot Feb 4th, boosted Oct 22
Day after 2nd shot during February ice storm. i had been standing over a portable gas heater & felt warm, so i took an ibuprofin & realized the gas heater was warm too. my arm ached a while after both1st & 2nd shot. They said to exercise the arm... that was why it ached, i do not like exercise.

I am part of the TexasCares U.T.study and my antibodies were off the chart protecting me over 2,500 per ml in Sept, 8 moths after the 2nd dose, but i got a booster in October anyway because after EACH of the 1st 2 shots i had more energy like A VITAMIN B-12 , cleaned the house the car mowed the grass, even took a bath once, I got up from the lazyboy to fetch the remote control etc. ...Now, over a month after 3rd Shot Oct booster, i just got results back on second antibody test and i'm still "off the chart protected" over 2,500 antibodies per ml (that's as high as it measures) So, I'm glad I did it & can still pick my nose without washing my hands, that sanitizer hurt when i rubbed my eyes

Since i actually felt better more energy etc after vaccines, I also later got a shingles Shingrex shot last year which hurt way more than the Moderna.

Thanks for sharing your encouraging antibody numbers

LOL on the sanitizer!

My first Shingrix was a non-event, other than a quite painful injection. Very little arm soreness, although I did hit the gym later that day. Due for the 2nd next week.