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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:49 pm
by KBCraig
Russell wrote:
KBCraig wrote:Carrying in a National Park isn't a "federal weapons charge", at least not in the image the phrase brings to mind. If caught, you'd be written a ticket. It's a misdemeanor.
Really? So the only trouble you would get into with carrying in a National Park on federal land is a misdemeanor ticket?
The restriction on carry isn't a law; it's a Rule, published in the Code of Federal Regulations.

Federal agencies write these Rules themselves. They're not debated in Congress and signed by the President, as a law is. These Rules can't create felonies; only Congress can do that.

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:25 pm
by RubenZ
Can't carry on Padre?


Don't know about them but there have Murders ALL the TIME on the Beach Access area here at South Padre Island. You'd be DUMB not to pack.

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:14 am
by KBCraig
Russell wrote:So if there is no jail time, and a small ticket, what about the aspect of your CHL being suspended? Jim said he is not quite sure about if your CHL would be suspended or not. Do you know the answer to that one?
Sorry, I don't know the answer. As someone else said, it depends on two things: first, if the federal agency reports it, and second, if DPS looks at the potential punishment and decides it is the equivalent of Class B or higher.

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:41 am
by boomerang
Is it on the level of a municipal ordinance or more like a speeding ticket? Either way, the uncertainty is another great reason for having a backup license in a State with reciprocity. Eligibility requirements for many States only consider real laws passed by a legislative body, not Constitutionally questionable regulations invented by some faceless bureaucrat.

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:50 am
by artx
boomerang wrote:Is it on the level of a municipal ordinance or more like a speeding ticket? Either way, the uncertainty is another great reason for having a backup license in a State with reciprocity. Eligibility requirements for many States only consider real laws passed by a legislative body, not Constitutionally questionable regulations invented by some faceless bureaucrat.
What are some examples of states that only consider laws and not CFR?

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:49 pm
by Velocity
RubenZ wrote:Can't carry on Padre?


Don't know about them but there have Murders ALL the TIME on the Beach Access area here at South Padre Island. You'd be DUMB not to pack.
I THINK the the "national park" section is only NORTH Padre Island - as far as I know, CHLs may carry in SOUTH Padre Island.

Can someone verify?

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:24 am
by seamusTX
Velocity wrote:I THINK the the "national park" section is only NORTH Padre Island - as far as I know, CHLs may carry in SOUTH Padre Island.
You are correct.

http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... php?t=9336

- Jim

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:44 am
by RubenZ
Awesome.

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:59 pm
by Velocity
seamusTX wrote:
Velocity wrote:I THINK the the "national park" section is only NORTH Padre Island - as far as I know, CHLs may carry in SOUTH Padre Island.
You are correct.

http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... php?t=9336

- Jim
Good to know since I carried last time I was there! :grin: