Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:19 am
Here's some info. I got from another forum posted by Tom.
Most of Ed Lovetts's cases were from areas where very few private citizens carry outside their homes, thus, most of the shootings occurred inside their homes. No surprise there. In Memphis, a fair number of people routinely carry a pistol, and the results are different.
At the NTI this year, Tom Givens did a lecture and power point on seven representative shooting incidents his students have been involved in during recent years. The summary of results of those shootings was quite different from what Ed listed.
Trends-
4 of 7 incidents involved an armed robbery by 1 or 2 suspects
3 occurred on Mall parking lots
Students- 1 female, 3 male whites, 3 male blacks
Shootees- 7 male black, 1 male white, 2 male Hispanics
3 of 7 incidents involved 2 suspects
29 shots fired by students/28 hits achieved- 96.5% hit ratio
Average # of shots fired = 4.1
3 incidents involved 4 or more shots fired
Students’ guns- 9mm- 2 incidents
.40 S&W- 5 incidents
If you have a chance to train with Tom Givens take it! He is an outstanding trainer and it is shown in his students' performance on the streets.
Most of Ed Lovetts's cases were from areas where very few private citizens carry outside their homes, thus, most of the shootings occurred inside their homes. No surprise there. In Memphis, a fair number of people routinely carry a pistol, and the results are different.
At the NTI this year, Tom Givens did a lecture and power point on seven representative shooting incidents his students have been involved in during recent years. The summary of results of those shootings was quite different from what Ed listed.
Trends-
4 of 7 incidents involved an armed robbery by 1 or 2 suspects
3 occurred on Mall parking lots
Students- 1 female, 3 male whites, 3 male blacks
Shootees- 7 male black, 1 male white, 2 male Hispanics
3 of 7 incidents involved 2 suspects
29 shots fired by students/28 hits achieved- 96.5% hit ratio
Average # of shots fired = 4.1
3 incidents involved 4 or more shots fired
Students’ guns- 9mm- 2 incidents
.40 S&W- 5 incidents
If you have a chance to train with Tom Givens take it! He is an outstanding trainer and it is shown in his students' performance on the streets.