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Russell wrote:What I don't get is why we put so much faith into our legislature to create/update our laws, yet they can't seem to make it sensible. Why the heck are there still parts of our law that nobody is for sure what they mean?

In the first place, the qualifications for the legislature are minimum age, residence, and lack of felony convictions. They don't have to be lawyers. They don't even have to be able to read.

Then, they have only 80 days to pass all the bills that they're going to pass in a given session. A lot of work is done in the final hours by people who haven't slept for days.

- Jim

seamusTX wrote:

Russell wrote:What I don't get is why we put so much faith into our legislature to create/update our laws, yet they can't seem to make it sensible. Why the heck are there still parts of our law that nobody is for sure what they mean?

In the first place, the qualifications for the legislature are minimum age, residence, and lack of felony convictions. They don't have to be lawyers. They don't even have to be able to read.

Then, they have only 80 days to pass all the bills that they're going to pass in a given session. A lot of work is done in the final hours by people who haven't slept for days.

- Jim

I always thought it was because our legislature has so many lawyers and write the laws vaguely just so they can stir up work for themselves and their lawyer buddys.

Liberty wrote:

seamusTX wrote:

Russell wrote:What I don't get is why we put so much faith into our legislature to create/update our laws, yet they can't seem to make it sensible. Why the heck are there still parts of our law that nobody is for sure what they mean?

In the first place, the qualifications for the legislature are minimum age, residence, and lack of felony convictions. They don't have to be lawyers. They don't even have to be able to read.

Then, they have only 80 days to pass all the bills that they're going to pass in a given session. A lot of work is done in the final hours by people who haven't slept for days.

- Jim

I always thought it was because our legislature has so many lawyers and write the laws vaguely just so they can stir up work for themselves and their lawyer buddys.

Nope. Far less than 50% of the Texas House and Senate are attorneys. Obviously I'm biased, but the bills I had a hand in this past session are abundantly clear - so as to avoid being "Rosenthalled." I was almost lynched for saying something similar several months ago, but it's far easier for an attorney to write a bill that accomplishes a goal, than it is for a non-attorney. Yes, the Legislature has legislative counsel to help draft bills, but those poor folks are grossly over-worked!

Now, where did I dig that foxhole?

Chas.

Don't worry Charles, I and a lot of others here, will provide you with suppresive fire until you can reach cover...

txinvestigator wrote:S... I also gave considerable consideration to this issue. IMO, the bottom line is this;GC 411.204 is a requirement for the hosptial, and in and of istelf puts no limitation on the CHL holder.

PC 46.035 is the only code a CHLer could be prosecuted under for carrying in a hospital, and that makes it clear that 30.06 must be posted for prosecution under that section.

Sorta like the 51% sign really being irrelevant to a CHL holder.

Agree?

I can see the argument, and it is my basic instinct to agree that the 30.06 signs is the only one enforceable. I also see the conflict in the required wording where the sign from the GC has different wording. I can see a hospital forcing the case and some DA's accepting it. The hospital's argument is that they posted the sign that exactly matches their requirement to post, so they gave proper notice. I think most juries will find not guilty, and I am fairly sure any one with a CHL would win on appeal if there were no 30.06 sign. BUT, I also don't want to see anyone be the test case so I thought I would warn everyone who is adamant about ignoring non-30.06 compliant signs that this one case could bite them.

seamusTX wrote:Then, they have only 80 days to pass all the bills that they're going to pass in a given session. A lot of work is done in the final hours by people who haven't slept for days.

A lot of work is done, and a lot of decisions are made, in the 630 days between sessions. Unofficially, of course, because meeting out of session is "improper" and would be strictly punished. Just like violating house rules by letting other reps turn your voting key. Or absconding the state to meet in Oklahoma or New Mexico. Yeah... just like that.

KBCraig wrote:Just like violating house rules by letting other reps turn your voting key. Or absconding the state to meet in Oklahoma or New Mexico. Yeah... just like that.

Naw, that kind of stuff doesn't happen!!!