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Posted: **Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:35 am**

Sorry, I misunderstood the discussion. Of course you all are correct if the facts are as you understood them.

Posted: **Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:19 am**

I wonder if you can get an iwb holster fer that pump action handgun

I walk with a limp and a cane anyhow so i wouldn't look like i was hiding something,shoots 2 3/4 or 3 inch if ya like pain,i got a feeling that any buckshot loads in that thing ain't pleasant,but i bet ya get a giggle with each blast

Posted: **Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:01 am**

As far as AOW carry goes, remember that the AOW definition is in federal law and not Texas law. The way I read Texas law most guns federally defined as AOWs would probably be handguns under Texas law.

That said, I own an AOW pen gun and it would be the last firearm I'd ever use in self defense. At 10 feet a group of 10 shots is a couple feet wide. It's designed for use at contact distance. It's also single shot and takes about 30 seconds to reload.

Posted: **Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:12 am**

dwsUSA wrote:It seems to me that carrying an unloaded gun would be much safer to the public than leaving a loaded gun locked in your vehicle. So when you are forced to leave your weapon in your vehicle how many folks unload it as well?

On another note, and I don't mean to open another can of worms here, but what gives a state or federal government the authority to restrict where a person can carry? I'm not interested in a debate on this, just wondering what the law says.

For the first part of your post -- I try to stay away from gun-prohibited places as much as possible, but for the rare times I'm at the Post Office, I lock up the loaded handgun in a small steel safe that is attached to the vehicle. I don't unload as the lack of a magazine or cartridges is a problem esaily remedied by a thief anyway.

The second part of your post was answered quite well by seamustx.....

PhilR.

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