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Re: Why can't you carry at sporting events?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:47 pm
by Kalrog
CodeJockey wrote:So would a monster truck rally be considered a sporting event? Just curious.
More than WWE, I would argue.
Re: Why can't you carry at sporting events?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:51 pm
by SkipB

Yep I in't gettin a streight answer on the WWE

Re: Why can't you carry at sporting events?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:51 pm
by Doug.38PR
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Parades are not off-limits to CHLs.
You can't carry at a sporting event, because a bad-call by a referee is going to get someone shot.

I'm serious, that was the sole argument for that provision. It was one of those we had to accept to get the bill out of committee and on the floor. This provision also ignores the danger spectators face walking back to their cars in dark parking lots. (I can remember at least 3 or 4 murders in the Astrodome parking lots over the years.)
Chas.
I was pretty sure they weren't off limits in Texas. I know firearms, and therefore CHLers (no 30.06 requirements), are illegal at parades in Louisiana.
Baseball season before last. Myself, my mother and father and I were attending a ballgame at Minutemaid park. I had to leave my 1911 .45 in the car.
We left about the 8th inning as we saw they were going to lose and wanted to beat the crowd exiting. We crossed the street from the ballpark and walked across one or two parkinglots to get to where my car was parked.
Suddenly, out of nowhere, a bum appears saying to my dad
"Excuse me sir, let me wash your windshield"
"no thanks"
"please, please Sir. Please, Please." paralleling us across the lot about 3-5 ft away, "please. come'on. Please please."
He wasn't drunk. I put myself fairly close to him. Dad and I kept saying "no"
Dad was more worried about if he was trying to distract us from somebody(ies) else about to jump us out from behind another car or somewhere ahead in the lot.
A bum walking up to you at 9:00 at night downtown offering to wax or wash your windshied and persisting like that just doesn't seem right. Normally these guys are harmless in the light of day sitting on the corner asking for money and walking away. But this was just suspicious.....and I was unarmed.
Re: Why can't you carry at sporting events?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:04 pm
by anygunanywhere
CodeJockey wrote:So would a monster truck rally be considered a sporting event? Just curious.
http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... =7&t=12960
Been discussed.
Anygun
Re: Why can't you carry at sporting events?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:13 pm
by Keith B
I thought it all started when a couple of good ole' boys went to the badminton tournament and kept shooting the birdies!
The problem with the law is it is too grey and what is and isn't a professional sporting event is not well defined. I personally think it was intended for the major league events like football, baseball, basketball and hockey, but it could probably be twisted enough by a DA to charge you for a lot of events.
How about a professional dog show like the Westminster Kennel Club? Showing dogs is a sport, and there is prize money and people that do it for a living, so that makes them professionals. Just my way of showing how something can be twisted.
Re: Why can't you carry at sporting events?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:28 pm
by SkipB
Good point Keith. I will probably ear on the side of caution and have her leave her peice in her car, are I'll just take em and pick em up.
Re: Why can't you carry at sporting events?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:43 pm
by LedJedi
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Parades are not off-limits to CHLs.
You can't carry at a sporting event, because a bad-call by a referee is going to get someone shot.

I'm serious, that was the sole argument for that provision. It was one of those we had to accept to get the bill out of committee and on the floor. This provision also ignores the danger spectators face walking back to their cars in dark parking lots. (I can remember at least 3 or 4 murders in the Astrodome parking lots over the years.)
Chas.
heh, not in the least surprised by this.

Re: Why can't you carry at sporting events?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:40 pm
by KBCraig
SkipB wrote:
Yep I in't gettin a streight answer on the WWE

WWE is definitely
not a sporting event. It is a scripted exhibition.
Re: Why can't you carry at sporting events?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:55 pm
by rm9792
I carried at Monster Jam and didnt see any signs. I didnt consider it a sporting event, more of a car show. I was worried they might search under my shirt as I had a baggy shirt on but they werent checking anyone. I did stop in the bathroom outside and tuck it in, people never consider tuckable IWB holsters. I have walked up to doors where they look in purses and lift shirts with my jacket open and shirt tucked in and they never looked twice. No oral just frisking.
Re: Why can't you carry at sporting events?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:28 pm
by mctowalot
Then I suppose we can't carry at a SHOOTING MATCH!

Re: Why can't you carry at sporting events?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:32 pm
by stevie_d_64
SkipB wrote:
Yep I in't gettin a streight answer on the WWE

Wraslin' is fake! So its not a sport...
But since a majority of the folks, not all, just a large proportion of the viewing public of events like that are a bit...mmmm, how you say entertainmently challenged...Then I would propose that in mught fall under the mental hospital clause or somfin'...
I have to admit though the "round card girls" are entertaining...
Re: Why can't you carry at sporting events?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:41 pm
by boomerang
mctowalot wrote:Then I suppose we can't carry at a SHOOTING MATCH!

It looks like technically you can't carry at a professional or school match "unless the license holder is a participant in the event and a handgun is used in the event" or you're exempt for some other reason (like owning the range.

)
What's a professional shooting match? I think that's up to a jury.
Re: Why can't you carry at sporting events?
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:54 am
by Keith B
stevie_d_64 wrote:[Wraslin' is fake! So its not a sport...
Stevie, you mean that ain't real? Tell me it's not so!!
Next you are gonna start telling me Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy aren't real. Man, you really know how to bring a guy down!!!

Re: Why can't you carry at sporting events?
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:44 am
by Kalrog
Keith B wrote:Next you are gonna start telling me Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy aren't real. Man, you really know how to bring a guy down!!!

Hey! My 5 year old son got a visit from the tooth fairy last night!
Ugly fairy, let me tell you. I saw it in a mirror.

Re: Why can't you carry at sporting events?
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:47 am
by jimlongley
Tactical_Texan_CHL wrote:Have you seen how people from Texas act at a football game? I can see why it was put in there. I surprised we've never had the rioting and fires like other cities have over sporting events.
I have seen things like that at middle school games in IL.