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Re: Mexican military routinely crosses our borders and....
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:03 am
by dustyb
srothstein wrote:But it is easy to accidentally cross the border in other places. The Rio Grande is only the border in Texas. It turns north at the Texas New Mexico border. From New Mexico to California the border is an imaginary line in the sand. And in some areas, the desert is very barren and the line is easy to cross by accident.
But, I think he is full of it when he says that. I would put my money on the corruption and the Army selling out to the drug cartels for security.
I should have specified "Texas/Mexico" border when I posted. I was referring to the incident in this article
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11226144 where they crossed the Rio Grande into Texas. I would bet the corruption goes higher than low ranking soldiers.
Re: Mexican military routinely crosses our borders and....
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:35 am
by nuparadigm
Thane's analysis is correct.
Re: Mexican military routinely crosses our borders and....
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:25 am
by Familyman1993
+1 regarding Thane's analysis.

Re: Mexican military routinely crosses our borders and....
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:36 am
by aardwolf
It sounds like a couple of good old boys with beanfield rifles could make a real difference.
Re: Mexican military routinely crosses our borders and....
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:46 am
by dukalmighty
dustyb wrote:“There is little doubt that the majority of these incidences are accidental,� said Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas., chairman of the Security Investigations Subcommittee
I've never been to the US/Mexico border (and Rep. McCaul probably hasn't either). Can someone tell me how you can accidentally cross the Rio Grande?
It's real easy you trip on a brick of cocaine and fall 500 yards forward
Re: Mexican military routinely crosses our borders and....
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:54 am
by SRizz21
We just need to put the National Guard back on the border...Then the Mexican military would be much more hesitant to cross into our country
Re: Mexican military routinely crosses our borders and....
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:53 pm
by casingpoint
So what if a U.S. citizen intentionally shoots and kills some of these Mexican soldiers on U.S. soil, is it murder?
Re: Mexican military routinely crosses our borders and....
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:58 pm
by Wildscar
casingpoint wrote:So what if a U.S. citizen intentionally shoots and kills some of these Mexican soldiers on U.S. soil, is it murder?
I think it would be called patriotism.

Re: Mexican military routinely crosses our borders and....
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:24 pm
by casingpoint
Wildscar wrote:
I think it would be called patriotism.

Bingo.

Re: Mexican military routinely crosses our borders and....
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:43 pm
by lunchbox
casingpoint wrote:Wildscar wrote:
I think it would be called patriotism.

Bingo.

the mexican citizens have no rights in this country as far as im concerned
Re: Mexican military routinely crosses our borders and....
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:21 pm
by Pinkycatcher
lunchbox wrote:casingpoint wrote:Wildscar wrote:
I think it would be called patriotism.

Bingo.

the mexican citizens have no rights in this country as far as im concerned
Well I agree, but this statement is better:
Non-American citizens have no rights in this country as far as I'm concerned.
Gotta watch out for those Canadians!

Re: Mexican military routinely crosses our borders and....
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:52 pm
by lunchbox
casingpoint wrote:Wildscar wrote:
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Well I agree, but this statement is better:
Non-American citizens have no rights in this country as far as I'm concerned.
Gotta watch out for those Canadians!

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yeah im not to fond of the Canadians myself
i spent 5 days in that country and plan on never going back
Re: Mexican military routinely crosses our borders and....
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:14 am
by KBCraig
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/au ... -to-agent/
Wednesday, August 6, 2008
Border patrol agent held at gunpoint
Jerry Seper
A U.S. Border Patrol agent was held at gunpoint Sunday night by members of the Mexican military who had crossed the border into Arizona, but the soldiers returned to Mexico without incident when backup agents responded to assist.
Agents assigned to the Border Patrol station at Ajo, Ariz., said the Mexican soldiers crossed the international border in an isolated area about 100 miles southwest of Tucson and pointed rifles at the agent, who was not identified.
It was unclear what the soldiers were doing in the United States, but U.S. law enforcement authorities have long said that current and former Mexican military personnel have been hired to protect drug and migrant smugglers.
"Unfortunately, this sort of behavior by Mexican military personnel has been going on for years," union Local 2544 of the National Border Patrol Council (NBPC) said on its Web page. "They are never held accountable, and the United States government will undoubtedly brush this off as another case of 'Oh well, they didn't know they were in the United States.'
"It is fortunate that this incident didn't end in a very ugly gunfight," said the local's posting.
More information at link above.
Re: Mexican military routinely crosses our borders and....
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:19 am
by KBCraig
Pinkycatcher wrote:lunchbox wrote:the mexican citizens have no rights in this country as far as im concerned
Non-American citizens have no rights in this country as far as I'm concerned.
That's an unwise attitude. It presumes that our rights exist by the circumstances of our birth, when that is not the case. Our rights are rights because we
were born, not
where we were born.
The Constitution defines some rights and limits the government from interfering in the free exercise thereof, but they are first and foremost
human rights, applicable to all.