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				Re: Aler: Cafe Express Uptown park 610 51% posting
				Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:24 pm
				by jnkirk1974
				I just left the McKinney (Uptown) Cafe Express and there were no signs at all.  I checked every entrance.
			 
			
					
				Re: Aler: Cafe Express Uptown park 610 51% posting
				Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:10 pm
				by Doug.38PR
				From what I got out of the TABC agent.  The incorrect signs were removed and he gave the manager a six new ones and "recommended" the manager put them on the front window or door.
			 
			
					
				Re: Aler: Cafe Express Uptown park 610 51% posting
				Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:11 pm
				by jnkirk1974
				I guess I'll be eating somewhere else for lunch once they put the proper signs in place.
			 
			
					
				Re: Aler: Cafe Express Uptown park 610 51% posting
				Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:20 pm
				by Mike1951
				Doug.38PR wrote:I just got an E mail from TABC thanking me for my inquiry and stating that Cafe Express is indeed a business that primarily sells food to the public and they are going to notify Cafe Express about putting up a proper weapons sign
jnkirk1974 wrote:I guess I'll be eating somewhere else for lunch once they put the proper signs in place.
jn, you're misunderstanding what has happened. Doug got the incorrect 51% signs, which would bar CHL carry, removed to be replaced with the proper "The unlicensed carry......." signs, which do NOT bar CHL carry.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Aler: Cafe Express Uptown park 610 51% posting
				Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:00 am
				by jnkirk1974
				Ok, so it sounds like the signs posted at Chili's........which is actually in our favor.  In other words, no license, no carry.
			 
			
					
				Re: Aler: Cafe Express Uptown park 610 51% posting
				Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:07 am
				by Mike1951
				That's exactly right!
			 
			
					
				Re: Aler: Cafe Express Uptown park 610 51% posting
				Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:56 am
				by jnkirk1974
				.....which now begs the question.........
Isn't a sign like that just common sense?  It's already state law that you cannot carry a gun without a license (obviously).
I wonder why they feel the need to post it in the first place.  Secondly, if someone is going to carry illegally, why would
a sign stop them?
Oh well, we'll never get answers to questions like this.  At least I'll be able to carry in Cafe Express as a licensed gun owner.
			 
			
					
				Re: Aler: Cafe Express Uptown park 610 51% posting
				Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:09 am
				by seamusTX
				jnkirk1974 wrote:Isn't a sign like that just common sense?  It's already state law that you cannot carry a gun without a license (obviously). I wonder why they feel the need to post it in the first place.  Secondly, if someone is going to carry illegally, why would a sign stop them?
Carrying a handgun without a license is normally a misdemeanor. In a place that sells alcohol, it's a felony. The sign serves as notice so that someone who is caught cannot plead ignorance of the fact that the place sells alcohol.
It's also perfectly legal to walk around with a rifle or shotgun, though obviously few people do it. That also becomes a felony if the person goes into a place that sells alcohol.
- Jim
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Aler: Cafe Express Uptown park 610 51% posting
				Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:39 am
				by jnkirk1974
				Gotcha.